erl Posted March 11, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 11, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) To my eye it has a red cast. The blue is a natural reflection from the sky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Hi erl, Take a look here What do most of you color film shooters do?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
plasticman Posted March 12, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 12, 2011 To my eye it has a red cast. The blue is a natural reflection from the sky. I think the original image is so good - it really makes me feel I have my feet in the cold surf - I wish I hadn't messed with it. Let's get back to the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjans Posted March 12, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 12, 2011 My C41 films (mostly Portra now) go to a moderate big processing lab (Elka Color) for only development + scan. I want them on my iPad. Aprox. 10 Euro for each film. In the past also tried local dealer. They are using a Fuji Frontier, it was faster and cheaper, but I found the scans a bit grainy and soft. Best Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted March 12, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 12, 2011 I'm still working on my Epson V700 scans and C41 film. This is Portra 160NC with ColorPerfect. Practice makes acceptable. Pete Scanned at 1800dpp Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/145612-what-do-most-of-you-color-film-shooters-do/?do=findComment&comment=1614014'>More sharing options...
bscott Posted March 21, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 21, 2011 Mike, I guess that I'm in the dark ages. I use Velvia and use Fuji mailers for processing and then view with my slide projector. If I need digital, I'll have the slide scanned by someone since I don't have a scanner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikep996 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #26 Posted March 21, 2011 That's what I do (projector). I used to have a slide scanner but sold it some years ago - wish I had kept it now even though it (LS30) is quite primitive by today's standards. Now nobody seems to make them - at least in decent price ranges. If I still lived in the US I would do the Velvia/mailers now as a regular thing but living in Mexico City, the processing prices are rather high. There's a great lab nearby that does processing and digitizing at various quality levels but a roll of 36 processed/mounted and digitized is about 25 bucks... I'm just constantly torn between the utilitarian ability of my Nikon DSLR vs the enjoyment of using the Leica.. I'd be perfectly happy to shoot more film with the M6/M2 - but I don't like the price! Maybe I'd better work more at making good shots so that when I pay that 25 bucks for processing I can feel I'm getting my money's worth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 21, 2011 Share #27 Posted March 21, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's what I do (projector). I used to have a slide scanner but sold it some years ago - wish I had kept it now even though it (LS30) is quite primitive by today's standards. Now nobody seems to make them - at least in decent price ranges You dont need a hiquality scanner for web pages, if you want a 2 foot x 3 foot print you can send neg or positive to pro shop. If I still lived in the US I would do the Velvia/mailers now as a regular thing but living in Mexico City, the processing prices are rather high. There's a great lab nearby that does processing and digitizing at various quality levels but a roll of 36 processed/mounted and digitized is about 25 bucks... That was the bit you left out of your initial post. If you dont have a local lab for E6 or C41 then you are stuck, with either E6 home processing kits are hard, But Andy Barton (moderator) home processes his E6, used to do it myself but unless you buy (2nd hand cheaper) the constant temperature bath processor E6 requires to much dicipline for me. You need to hold the temperatures tolerances to get the slides consistent for projection from batch to batch You should be as good as the pro labs, but as cheap as the cheapest, Andy may chime in... C41 home processing kit much easier, color negative or monochrome, if you slip a bit on time or temp you can photo shop any deviation, dont ask how I know. retained silver monochrome home processing, less critical. cause I'm picky I light box negatives and wastepaper bin most, makes scannig a lot easier, the local mini labs seem to have all but dissappeared here to... If you want to print in color you need to bubble jet. I shoot a lot of monochrome and wet print it occassionally. Dont have a problem with digital dont have a digital camera. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted March 21, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 21, 2011 I do not talk down film. I love film and have more film Leicas than I care to count, Barnacks, Ms, and R`s. I have a darkroom that is equipped with multiple Leica enlargers and 4x5 enlargers. I also have a Zone VI view camera. I still roll film into Leica brass cassettes. But the simple fact is film sales are smaller all the time. At some point with low volume, makers can not sell the film for enough money to make a profit. Since they are not charity, guess what? We can cry all we want and talk it and the only thing that matters is sales. Feel free to list me off, but putting your head in the sand will not change a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 21, 2011 Share #29 Posted March 21, 2011 I do not talk down film. I love film and have more film Leicas than I care to count, Barnacks, Ms, and R`s. I have a darkroom that is equipped with multiple Leica enlargers and 4x5 enlargers. I also have a Zone VI view camera. I still roll film into Leica brass cassettes. But the simple fact is film sales are smaller all the time. At some point with low volume, makers can not sell the film for enough money to make a profit. Since they are not charity, guess what? We can cry all we want and talk it and the only thing that matters is sales. Feel free to list me off, but putting your head in the sand will not change a thing. Hi Tobey Your posts are the most entertaining we could possibly desire for, the 2nd logic flaw in this last one is at your normal level of sophistry i.e. why the number of Film M bodies should a have anything to do with anything other than how badly you suffer from GAS. Received wisdom is Eugene Smith pawned his cameras between jobs but he was a real dedicated photog. The last post of your I saw was a lulu but I was too nice to tell you. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anabasis Posted March 21, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 21, 2011 I shoot 2 kinds of film in my Leicas. In my M7 I usually shoot street scenes. That usually means B&W. I usually use the C41 emulsions due to the ease in getting it developed. In my R8 I shoot Fuji slide film for the most part (Astia and Velvia). I prefer to project them at home or look at them on my light box. To share them on Flickr and the like, I use a Nikon 5000ED scanner. JCA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 22, 2011 Share #31 Posted March 22, 2011 [...]But the simple fact is film sales are smaller all the time. At some point with low volume, makers can not sell the film for enough money to make a profit. [...] We can still buy nails of the type made in 1700. I could go on forever with similar examples. There will be film makers as long as there are film users. You and I will die before film is no longer available. I am 65 years-old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 22, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 22, 2011 My edited post: Enjoy film! Googling will show you that people have been unflaggingly predicting the imminent disappearance of film for at least the last 12 or 13 years. Probably longer. Just ignore the persistent doom merchants. Life is too short, and film is just TOO GOOD! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 22, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 22, 2011 Let's keep personal attacks out of the forum, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 22, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 22, 2011 E6 home processing kits are hard, But Andy Barton (moderator) home processes his E6, used to do it myself but unless you buy (2nd hand cheaper) the constant temperature bath processor E6 requires to much dicipline for me. You need to hold the temperatures tolerances to get the slides consistent for projection from batch to batch You should be as good as the pro labs, but as cheap as the cheapest, Andy may chime in... This is true, but I haven't used a projector since Mrs Thatcher's first term in office. I scan my E6, so any slight colour variations between process batches isn't really an issue for me. I use a Jobo processor which makes the whole process very easy. Unfortunately the chemistry doesn't last very long when the bottles have been opened, so it's best to dedicate half a day and batch process a whole load at once. I have never processed C41 and have more or less stopped using it as I find it a pig to scan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 22, 2011 Share #35 Posted March 22, 2011 I am 65 years-old. whipper snapper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterman Posted March 22, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 22, 2011 I have just tried some C41 colour again, just to see what my M7 and Leica glass was capable of. Very, very disappointed:mad:. One roll of the new Kodak Portra 400 D&P'd by local High Street processors - seriously lacked punch and grainy not tack sharp and when I scanned them, too grainy for colour. Kodak 200 by mail order - colour better, sharpness better but most prints had a black bar down one edge! I used to get better looking prints out of my point and shot Fujifilm compact. Is it something to do with the way these companies actually print. I'm not going to give up got some more Portra 400 I'll try Peak Imaging next. I've a couple of rolls of E6 I will give a go with, but the cost! It almost makes me think I need to get a M8 for colour and just stick with B&W film. I get lovely colour files that make super prints on my R800 straight out my GF1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 22, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 22, 2011 I scan my E6, so any slight colour variations between process batches isn't really an issue for me. I use a Jobo processor which makes the whole process very easy. Unfortunately the chemistry doesn't last very long when the bottles have been opened, so it's best to dedicate half a day and batch process a whole load at once. I have never processed C41 and have more or less stopped using it as I find it a pig to scan. I have to batch up at least 15 off 36x C41 for the 1 litre kits to maintain economy, it does not keep, I only do hope processing if I cant find a convenient lab. Labs do vary, scratches, debris, etc. The C41 home process is easy, but I'd try retained silver first if you were a starter. And I dont seem to have problem scanning, or even with mini lab scans. Loads a problems with lens caps etc. About 50% of my shooting is retained silver the rest is color or mono C41. Not found a retained silver lab I liked yet. Most of my film is expired bulk or cine. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 22, 2011 Share #38 Posted March 22, 2011 It almost makes me think I need to get a M8 for colour and just stick with B&W film. That is my plan - M9 for colour, and MP for B&W. I have followed the (to me, pointless) debate on the virtues of the CCD as opposed to the CMos sensor, and it is reminiscent of the discussions of colour balance of different makes of film. I guess much depends on what you ultimately plan to do with your images. I have a very high discard rate, and I take pictures (amateur) for a number of reasons. But I don't print. At all. The image I get on my monitor is enough for me. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 22, 2011 Share #39 Posted March 22, 2011 Regarding chemical storage/keeping, I can offer this proven technique. I have dozens and dozens of small plastic chem bottles, originally from the old Agfa Chemical kits. The 'raw' chemistry was packed in them. These I now use to store stock solutions in after completely filling each one to exclude maximum air. You can then mix working solutions to process just one roll of film. Any remnants left in the bottles (150ml size bottles) will still keep for a number of weeks, maybe more but I don't push my luck. E6 is sensitive chemistry but the C41 will keep in small bottles for months and remain correctly functional. I have been doing this for more years than I care to count. The result beats anything any Pro lab I have encountered, hands down. P.S. I do exactly the same with X-Tol for B&W processing. My X-Tol lasts for up to two yeas this way, if not used up. I usually dump it at that point, even though it still works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Manning Posted March 23, 2011 Share #40 Posted March 23, 2011 Sorry it took a little while to reply. Thanks for the very kind kudos on my slide images. A couple of thoughts: For scanning, getting the color consistent, if not absolutely right (ie matching the slide) is extremely difficult, for me anyway. I'm fairly picky and as a result I'm constantly disappointed, not only in lab/minilab scans, but in my own scans. Digital color is so effortless and mostly good, it's infuriating! That is, if you are committed to color film. At the end of the day, I'm always satisfied with the actual slide...at least for color and density, anyway. Secondly...yeah, I like to think of myself as a Leica shooter, not a fondler. So, my M6 goes to the ocean, to the pool, in the snow, sand, gets wrapped in a padded sleeve and transported in regular hand luggage. I don't, however, use it in pouring rain. That just seems like common sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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