Dan Ryan Posted February 27, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I found this roll of Kodachrome when fossicking around. It seems to be unused. The carton gives an expiry date of March 1978. Is this the long leader that was in use in the days of the screwmounts? Can I use it as a template for trimming the film of today to use in the IIIf ? thanks Dan Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/145224-template-for-old-film-leader/?do=findComment&comment=1601708'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Hi Dan Ryan, Take a look here template for old film leader. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted February 27, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, and yes. It will be a bit fragile though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted February 27, 2011 Share #3 Posted February 27, 2011 Dan, I would not use it as a template rather, use it to make a template. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted February 28, 2011 Thanks Jan & Andy - I'll scribe the outline onto something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyelm Posted February 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted February 28, 2011 To save time, just download this PDF. Leica IIIf Film Trimming Guide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted February 28, 2011 Share #6 Posted February 28, 2011 I found this roll of Kodachrome when fossicking around. One of our "Intel Jockeys" used to use that phrase. A few years since I have heard it but gave me a smile remembering him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted March 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ah, Grey Elm, if you are a grey elm I am a grey gum tree And thank you very much for that link. Andy - I have two intel jockeys in the family. Glad it brought back some happy memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 1, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 1, 2011 To save time, just download this PDF. Leica IIIf Film Trimming Guide Regrettably the meaning of the pdf is unclear and shows 4.5 inches from the end of the film to the film canister but no measurement to the cut. (Presumably it's an arrow length problem and the author means 4.5 inches to the cut.) The other interesting thing I note is that Dan's photo of the Kodak film shows the cut opposite the 20th sprocket hole but the pdf shows the cut opposite the 22nd sprocket hole. Why the difference and which is correct? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted March 1, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 1, 2011 Regrettably the meaning of the pdf is unclear and shows 4.5 inches from the end of the film to the film canister but no measurement to the cut. (Presumably it's an arrow length problem and the author means 4.5 inches to the cut.) The other interesting thing I note is that Dan's photo of the Kodak film shows the cut opposite the 20th sprocket hole but the pdf shows the cut opposite the 22nd sprocket hole. Why the difference and which is correct? Pete. Just out of interest when using my ADVOO to cut the film leader I get 22 clear sprocket holes, which is as shown in the Pdf image . So presumably the image is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyelm Posted March 1, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 1, 2011 Regrettably the meaning of the pdf is unclear and shows 4.5 inches from the end of the film to the film canister but no measurement to the cut. (Presumably it's an arrow length problem and the author means 4.5 inches to the cut.) The other interesting thing I note is that Dan's photo of the Kodak film shows the cut opposite the 20th sprocket hole but the pdf shows the cut opposite the 22nd sprocket hole. Why the difference and which is correct? Pete. The idea is to print the pdf onto a piece of card (at 100%) and then cut it out to make a template. The important thing is not to cut through a sprocket hole. The 20 to 22 hole difference is within the tolerances I have seen in various publications. Loading Barnacks has produced many threads in many forums and there doesn't seem to be total agreement on the best method. I tend to stick with the manufacturers method, however any method that works for you must be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 1, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 1, 2011 I just do it by eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted March 1, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 1, 2011 I just do it by eye. Likewise, I just extend it a bit, the important points are ;- to get enough length to attach the film to the takeup spool and clear the sprockets at half width not to cut through a sprocket hole its not necessary to get a perfect shape, and the actual number of sprockets is not in my experience of great importance. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 1, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 1, 2011 I found myself without a pair of scissors a couple of weeks ago and had to tear the film (Tri-X) with my fingers. It was messy but it did the trick and I now carry a pair of emergency scissors in each of my bags. (Barn door - horse - bolted etc, you say? Yes I know.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted March 2, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 2, 2011 I found myself without a pair of scissors a couple of weeks ago and had to tear the film (Tri-X) with my fingers. It was messy but it did the trick and I now carry a pair of emergency scissors in each of my bags. (Barn door - horse - bolted etc, you say? Yes I know.) Pete. Remember to take them out for flights as carry on baggage, they confiscated my christmas cracker screwdrivers (2 inches long-total-used mainly to maintain my spectacles!) and wouldn't allow my wife's knitting needles! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 2, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 2, 2011 Remember to take them out for flights as carry on baggage, they confiscated my christmas cracker screwdrivers (2 inches long-total-used mainly to maintain my spectacles!) and wouldn't allow my wife's knitting needles! Gerry Yes, unfortunately that's why they weren't in my bag - I'd cleverly removed them for a flight and forgot to put them back in. I can immediately see how the security would justifiably come to the conclusion that a man in his mid-fifties with a pair of miniature folding scissors (or those evil Christmas cracker screwdrivers for that matter) would be intent on, and able to, bring down an airliner on the building of his choice. Perhaps I'll stick to childrens' plastic scissors from now on. No, to cut the film, not to bring down an airliner! Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted March 2, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 2, 2011 The Gatwick website says that scissors are allowed if "both blades are round-ended or less than three centimetres". Unfortunately the rules at Hong Kong are different and they took them off me there. In fact the HK Civil Aviation Department says you mustn't carry on "any blunt object capable of being used to cause injury" - which I guess rules out an M with any lens longer than 50mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 2, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 2, 2011 ... In fact the HK Civil Aviation Department says you mustn't carry on "any blunt object capable of being used to cause injury" - which I guess rules out an M with any lens longer than 50mm. ... and a folding umbrella. Handbags look like they're out too, depending on how they define injury. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted March 2, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 2, 2011 The Gatwick website says that scissors are allowed if "both blades are round-ended or less than three centimetres". Unfortunately the rules at Hong Kong are different and they took them off me there. In fact the HK Civil Aviation Department says you mustn't carry on "any blunt object capable of being used to cause injury" - which I guess rules out an M with any lens longer than 50mm. Worst problems I have had with Ms has been at East Midlands Airport, (twice!) They simply do not know what to make of a camera which is not an slr and not digital. All sorts of tests for explosives etc etc. Reluctantly passed in the end, although the second time it happened the next person in the queue managed to knock the M6ttl off the bench with her handbag, it was in a simple Lowe Pro pouch to use on the flight but suffered a bent rewind crank and knocked the rangefinder out. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 2, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 2, 2011 Is it still legal to take your hands with you on a flight? I mean, they're probably the most common of 'blunt objects which could cause injury'. Or perhaps airports will start to routinely handcuff everyone on check-in? As for the film leader, I just trim freehand - I know roughly how long the leader needs to be, I probably trim a little more than needed, but it's easy enough to pull the film out holding it against the camera as a guide to measurement, or count 22 holes.... As long as there is enough thin leader to run from the take up spool to the film canister end then you're in business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted March 2, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 2, 2011 The Gatwick website says that scissors are allowed if "both blades are round-ended or less than three centimetres". Unfortunately the rules at Hong Kong are different and they took them off me there. In fact the HK Civil Aviation Department says you mustn't carry on "any blunt object capable of being used to cause injury" - which I guess rules out an M with any lens longer than 50mm. So what happens if you have an ABLON which is the proper cutter to go with the ADVOO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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