jaapv Posted February 25, 2011 Share #21 Â Posted February 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Was concerned about a hand grip's added bulk so I contemplated the purchase of a Thumbs-up ... however there I was concerned about the stress it might put on the hotshoe and about possible trouble when using the wide-angle accessory finder. Eventually I tried a Leica hand grip and was sold immediately. The added bulk is neglectible; the shape allows the fingertips to slip a tiny bit into the gap between grip and camera body; handling the camera is transformed for the better. Bought it immediately, used it ever since, and never wasted another thought on the Thumbs-up thing.It all depends on the size/shape of the individual's hands I suppose. I have a couple of Leica handgrips and foundthem uncomfortable, disliked the Thumbs-up because it blocks the hot shoe and was not quite fit for my hands either and would not be without the Thumbie now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tdtaylor Posted February 25, 2011 Share #22 Â Posted February 25, 2011 The M9 does not need to be clutterred up with extraneous doodads such as the Thumbs Up or a large handgrip. Â Lars, I do believe that is your opinion, and obviously works well for you. In my case, holding the naked camera in my palm, the index finger jambs into the lens and my thumb ends up half way across the screen, so I end up with it not sitting in my palm. I end up having to squeeze the camera like a pack of cards- get tiring after a while. As I stated earlier, isn't it great we have options to accommodate most of us. Â OTOH, a small bump as you mentioned would probably go a long way towards improving ergonomics for many. Â Also, as a note, I don't use the Thumbs Up anymore- it it easily hit and has left considerable denting on the back of the top plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted February 25, 2011 Share #23 Â Posted February 25, 2011 I my case I bought a Leica bottom plate/hand-grip unit and would not be without it. I promise you that without it I would have dropped the camera many times by now. The extended gripping width on the right side of the camera gives me a better hold for steadiness while shooting. I did try the "thumbs-up" with the hand-grip but, to me, it was a bit of overkill. However, without the hand-grip it was quite useful. But, the hot shoe mount of the 'thmbs-up" blocks the room needed to mount a Visoflex ..... and having to remove it to use a flash is just a pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likalar Posted February 25, 2011 Share #24  Posted February 25, 2011 Cheapskates like me use self-adhesive dots, bumpers, etc. This one is from Radio Shack. Ugly but very effective, and has been on for several months. Removes with a simple twisting motion. Under $1.00? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/144972-hand-grip-vs-thumbs-up-thing/?do=findComment&comment=1599753'>More sharing options...
pico Posted February 25, 2011 Share #25 Â Posted February 25, 2011 The handgrip with bottom plate is obscenely expensive. I'm making my own. That said, I prefer the handgrip and thumbs-up. I have long fiingers, and the thumbie thing helps keep my thumb from hitting the menu button. Â First I'm going to try likalar's very cool idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted February 25, 2011 Share #26 Â Posted February 25, 2011 Oh, I forgot to mention this concerning the Thumbs-Up scratching the camera. If you will notice there is a protruding "pad" on the rear of the device just under the mounting point which protects the camera finish at that point. Though it protects at that point in use the end of the thumbs-up, at the outward curve, is where hold force is applied. So, the device "rocks" on the forward pad and contacts the camera paint at the end were it is used. Cut a thin piece of the "fuzzy" side of self stick velcro to run from the stock pad to the beginning of the outward curve.... and this will not only protect the camera finish, but prevent unnecessary rocking in the camera hot shoe. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big Posted February 25, 2011 Share #27 Â Posted February 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have small hands and I find that while having my fingers wrapped around the hand grip, it puts my index finger too far away from the shutter release and makes it awkward to shoot pictures. The Thumbs Up, on the other hand, for me really makes it easier to hold the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKbRS Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share #28 Â Posted February 25, 2011 From what I've recently read, it looks one of the Luigi cases with the built-in grip would obviate the need for these...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2mini Posted February 25, 2011 Share #29 Â Posted February 25, 2011 The handgrip with bottom plate is obscenely expensive. Â Not nearly as obscene as the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
usayit Posted February 25, 2011 Share #30 Â Posted February 25, 2011 Cheapskates like me use self-adhesive dots, bumpers, etc. This one is from Radio Shack. Ugly but very effective, and has been on for several months. Removes with a simple twisting motion. Under $1.00? Â I used the same exact 'bumper" as a thumb rest on the back of both of mine used with a grip. Comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted February 26, 2011 Share #31 Â Posted February 26, 2011 I think adding a gripping surface anyway you see fit is an improvement. It's just too "slippery" without such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted February 26, 2011 Share #32 Â Posted February 26, 2011 Steve Barnett's "Thumbie" works a treat. Benefits over the 'thumbs up' is no pressure on hot shoe and may be used with flash or aux. finders. Â Combined with a StreetShooter, it gives fast access to steady and safe shooting without the 'hand fatigue'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagia Posted February 26, 2011 Share #33 Â Posted February 26, 2011 I was very happy about the MD-grip, which is a nice alternative to the Leica grip. But some time ago I detached it and now I tend to agree that M9 is very handy without any addition. Â I don't have any experience with thumbs-up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ã…mund Posted February 27, 2011 Share #34 Â Posted February 27, 2011 I got my M9 and the Luigi half case with built in grip about at the same time, but had to wait a bit for the steel grey CSEP1. I must say that it was a revelation to pick up the camera and hold it with the thumbs up mounted. I felt that at last the camera was complete! Â Regards Ã…mund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexmann Posted February 27, 2011 Share #35 Â Posted February 27, 2011 In 6 months use my thumbs-up has neither scratched nor dented my M9. As to those who feel that it puts pressure on the hot-shoe, do you have any empirical reason for saying this or is it just a supposition? Regards Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted February 28, 2011 Share #36  Posted February 28, 2011 As to those who feel that it puts pressure on the hot-shoe, do you have any empirical reason for saying this or is it just a supposition?  Yes but only with my X1: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-x1-forum/168813-repair-thumbsup-related.html  Anyone's comments in that thread would be appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scola77 Posted February 28, 2011 Share #37 Â Posted February 28, 2011 I tried both. I currently use a Thumbs Up and find that it helps tremendously with sharpness, especially at slower shutter speeds. The camera feels much more stable and secure with it on. No kidding, it works great. Highly recommend. Â The hand grip, although it provided stability, added weight and bulk that to me was undesirable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted February 28, 2011 Share #38 Â Posted February 28, 2011 If someone says that their thumbs up scratched their camera I simply believe them that it did. They are speaking of their own experience which may not be the case for yours. Apples and oranges. This has nothing to do with the inherent quality of the device or possible stress on the hot-shoe. I offered a practical and simple solution for preventing the possibility, too simple I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted February 28, 2011 Share #39  Posted February 28, 2011 As to those who feel that it puts pressure on the hot-shoe, do you have any empirical reason for saying this or is it just a supposition?Regards Alex  Basically it is a lever inserted into the hot shoe against which you apply pressure at one end with your thumb. This applies a rotational force attempting to twist the hot shoe off in an anti-clockwise direction. I have no idea if the hotshoe design is such that it will constantly withstand this force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 28, 2011 Share #40  Posted February 28, 2011 get both you will feel better than just a thumbie  Lets not get a Thumbs Up confused with a Thumbie  Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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