jpattison Posted February 3, 2011 Share #21 Posted February 3, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) and there just happens to be one for sale at the moment... MS Optical Super Triplet Perar 35mm F3.5 for Leica M on eBay (end time 11-Feb-11 17:16:08 GMT) John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xmas Posted February 3, 2011 Share #22 Posted February 3, 2011 Hi Tad expensive? Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 3, 2011 Share #23 Posted February 3, 2011 OK if you could get it for this price and not have to pay additional VAT (OK for EU I think). I paid around £100 for the privilege of importing mine into the UK :-( Assuming the lens is mint, anything up to £530 is OK. (+ you can't buy them anywhere else at the moment should you want one...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 3, 2011 Share #24 Posted February 3, 2011 Yes, if you can get it at that price its a bargain. Import Duty, VAT and handling fees added £106 to the price of mine. Not that I begrudge it, its a superb little lens which based on my initial pixel peeping I think is going to get a lot of use. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 3, 2011 Share #25 Posted February 3, 2011 OK if you could get it for this price and not have to pay additional VAT (OK for EU I think). ...Since Switzerland's not in the EU regrettably the lens would qualify for VAT. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 3, 2011 Share #26 Posted February 3, 2011 Hi An end time of 11th Feb means it is not going to get cheaper? A CV pan 35mm is a lot cheaper? Noel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesk8752 Posted February 3, 2011 Share #27 Posted February 3, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi An end time of 11th Feb means it is not going to get cheaper? A CV pan 35mm is a lot cheaper? Noel. The C-V is faster and undoubtedly sharper as well. Unless you want that old-fashioned look (read unsharp corners and comatic blurring unless used at small apertures) the Perar does not seem to offer much. Of course, YMMV... Regards, Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 4, 2011 Share #28 Posted February 4, 2011 The C-V is faster and undoubtedly sharper as well. Unless you want that old-fashioned look (read unsharp corners and comatic blurring unless used at small apertures) the Perar does not seem to offer much. Of course, YMMV... Regards, Jim Leica (and to a minor extent CV) are not only responsible for making the most perfect lenses available today, but also knocking any passion, art, and spirit out of many photographers that use them solely on the basis that they are supposedly buying perfection. The look of the Perar reminds me of my large format lenses, open smooth tones that show off the strengths of the M9 sensor better than the tight pinched over contrasty tonal rendering of many a modern Leica lens. Its almost like making photographs with my 4x5 again. I put the Perar into the same lens sub-section as the ZM 50mm Sonnar, you want it because you can use the foibles, not think of them as impediments. So I don't buy the idea of 'old-fashioned'. Or at least, I've never thought of the means by which an artist expresses himself as being a fashion statement, lenses being just tools for the job, not the reason for doing the job Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 4, 2011 Share #29 Posted February 4, 2011 Leica (and to a minor extent CV) are not only responsible for making the most perfect lenses available today, but also knocking any passion, art, and spirit out of many photographers that use them solely on the basis that they are supposedly buying perfection. The look of the Perar reminds me of my large format lenses, open smooth tones that show off the strengths of the M9 sensor better than the tight pinched over contrasty tonal rendering of many a modern Leica lens. Its almost like making photographs with my 4x5 again. I put the Perar into the same lens sub-section as the ZM 50mm Sonnar, you want it because you can use the foibles, not think of them as impediments. So I don't buy the idea of 'old-fashioned'. Or at least, I've never thought of the means by which an artist expresses himself as being a fashion statement, lenses being just tools for the job, not the reason for doing the job Steve Hi I understand your points, my mates borrow my antique Canon LTM wides etc and go extatic over the pastel shades and the other aspects of signature. Hurt I say ' but it is nearly as good as a type I cron...' they were not interested in brick walls But Cosina have scatter gunned the market place, ZM lenses throwing elemnts at the problem a la Zeiss, and CV fast clinical lenses, slow cost effective lenses but as well two signature lenses, the 40mm f/1.4 SC which satisfies a part of the 40mm market and provides a near pra asph 35mm f/1.4, it has the same outlne design, similarly the 35mm f/1.4, if you can ignore its distorsion, it has the same outline design as the type I cron.. If Leica or Konica have left a hole they are filling it... the missed the collapsible 35... Noel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 4, 2011 Share #30 Posted February 4, 2011 If Leica or Konica have left a hole they are filling it... the missed the collapsible 35... Noel. Interesting comments from Noel and Steve. After a week of only using the Perar for personal work I'm beginning to get a better sense of its strengths and weaknesses. Optically, it's clearly a different animal from my 35 Summicron v4 - but that's part of it's charm. If I'm working in very low light or want better edge sharpness I know which lens I'll choose. However, if I want a walk-about street camera that either draws no attention to itself, or gets the occasional positive comment (two young women in London yesterday - "what a neat camera - I've not seen one like that for years - does it still work?), the Perar + M9 is close to perfect. It lets me work in open spaces without people feeling threatened, draws in a unique and pleasing way, and matched with an RF approach to street work + the M9 sensor, covers most of the bases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_R Posted February 4, 2011 Share #31 Posted February 4, 2011 Chris, congrats to your new baby :-) I love this little lens. Always in my car / bag/ pocket. Recent stuff: Two exposures stitched for wider FOV. larger: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5397246911_e029e36709_o.jpg Three shots stitched vertically: larger: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/5396562002_1f14013fe8_o.jpg A bit vignette and red edge fix is often necessary, but takes two seconds with an LCC profile in Capture One Carsten Ranke Photography Flickr: C.Rangefinder's stuff tagged with msopticalsupertripletperar3535 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 5, 2011 Share #32 Posted February 5, 2011 Carsten - great examples of what the Perar can achieve, and a testament to the lovely landscapes you run / walk / drive through... Interesting that you've noted red-edge. I've not seen it as an obvious issue in any shots so far... I'd expect to see it in something like the attached (not a wonderful image!), but it's not apparent... I've stayed with the Summarit coding and this seems to be helpful. Are you using yours coded? Best... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/142601-perar-lens/?do=findComment&comment=1578779'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 5, 2011 Share #33 Posted February 5, 2011 I am seeing some subtle red edge with my coded Perar, hardly noticable in some photo's, moreso in others. Its a very easy fix even without using Cornerfix (which I would use for more extreme red edge, say with a CV 21mm Skopar). The photo above has been corrected. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 5, 2011 Share #34 Posted February 5, 2011 Steve, Would you very kindly post the uncorrected shot s we can see the difference please? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 5, 2011 Share #35 Posted February 5, 2011 This is straight out of ACR. I did say it was subtle. My picture above wasn't meant to illustrate it so perhaps I should have chosen another with that in mind. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/142601-perar-lens/?do=findComment&comment=1578975'>More sharing options...
C_R Posted February 5, 2011 Share #36 Posted February 5, 2011 You will probably see that the code wears off after a while. So, my Perar is now "uncoded", not detected by the M9 anymore. I could repaint the code but LCC profiles are so easy, that I didnt try. The in-camera coding seems to work fine, as the example above shows. Not sure that every Perar does the same amount of red edge, as we know from other lenses on the M9, however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted February 14, 2011 Share #37 Posted February 14, 2011 If anyone is selling this lens, please let me know. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunderkind Posted June 1, 2011 Share #38 Posted June 1, 2011 The second production run of this lens has commenced and can now be ordered from Dirk Rosler's great website - www.japanexoposures.com. Be quick, as half the production run of 200 units have already been sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted June 7, 2011 Share #39 Posted June 7, 2011 The vignetting and soft corners of this lens remind me of the Olympus XA wide open. As the latter is more pocketable, I'm not sure of the advantages here unless one wants to use a digital Leica body. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted June 7, 2011 Share #40 Posted June 7, 2011 It seems, looking at all the pictures here, some more beautiful, some less, that the focus this small lens can deliver is more or less the same of a small medium quality point and shoot camera. I would say however that on the M8 should work better than the M9 due to the crop factor. But these are only assumptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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