stunsworth Posted August 25, 2011 Share #61 Posted August 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Carl, you are articulating the concerns I had when Palermo was announced. I look forward to seeing all the entries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Hi stunsworth, Take a look here Palermo in October. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
bill Posted August 25, 2011 Share #62 Posted August 25, 2011 I've just spent 5 minutes doing a Google map of where we have been, including this year in Palermo (If you draw a line between all the destinations and squint hard it looks like an M2 without a self-timer...) To see the map search for "Leica One Challenge Destinations" on Google Maps. I have tried to post a link but it won't play ball. I do agree - it's not just the distance, it's the travel. Palermo isn't the easiest of destinations and we should "get back to basics" for next year. It is, btw, the 9th next year, by my reckoning - unless I have missed one! I do believe we should go to "the mothership" but maybe we should do that for our 10th anniversary. I am open to suggestions for #9 if we don't do Wetzlar next year but would definitely give preference to a city that has easy(jet) access. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 25, 2011 Share #63 Posted August 25, 2011 It is, btw, the 9th next year, by my reckoning - unless I have missed one! I do believe we should go to "the mothership" but maybe we should do that for our 10th anniversary Perhaps back to where it all started in London for the 10th anniversary? The weather would surely be better second time around (and I believe the Chandos is still open for business). That would leave Wetzlar available for next year (with a trip round the factory at Solms if Andreas asks Leica very nicely?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 25, 2011 Share #64 Posted August 25, 2011 We've got a room at the Vecchio Borgo at a good rate Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 25, 2011 Share #65 Posted August 25, 2011 Quick question - what are people doing about airport transfers? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 27, 2011 Share #66 Posted August 27, 2011 OK! I have just committed to Palermo. Managed to pay for a cheap airfare to Rome. 25+ hrs flight, immediately followed by 11+ hrs by train direct to Palermo. After all that sleeping, I won't need a hotel. Will search for one later today when I get over the shock of the airfare. Sorry to read that Carl and Anne are not joining us. They will be missed. Regarding the suggestion for a morning shoot, I think that is a good idea 'lightwise'. Who sleeps in on holiday anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share #67 Posted August 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Quick question - what are people doing about airport transfers? Regards, Bill We are going to catch the bus. I'm looking forward to seeing the details of the event Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted August 27, 2011 Share #68 Posted August 27, 2011 ....... After all that sleeping, I won't need a hotel. ................................................................ :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 27, 2011 Share #69 Posted August 27, 2011 After all that sleeping, I won't need a hotel. And after all that excellent food you won't be hungry either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 27, 2011 Share #70 Posted August 27, 2011 And after all that excellent food you won't be hungry either. Methinks I'll be in dire need of some good Sicilian food and wine! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share #71 Posted August 27, 2011 Slightly out of date, but no doubt still fairly useful Getting To and Around Palermo - Airport - Buses - Trains - See Palermo and Western Sicily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
octo Posted August 30, 2011 Share #72 Posted August 30, 2011 Perhaps back to where it all started in London for the 10th anniversary? The weather would surely be better second time around (and I believe the Chandos is still open for business). That would leave Wetzlar available for next year (with a trip round the factory at Solms if Andreas asks Leica very nicely?). I'll second that! BTW, sorry you can't make it this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted August 31, 2011 Share #73 Posted August 31, 2011 Just catching up after a vacation in HK, and very sorry to hear that Carl & Anne are not coming this year. It is of course understandable, even from London it's not that easy to get to Palermo. Before we all make suggestions at the appropriate time, can I suggest that we all look at flight/rail access to the destination we propose? Also how about those proposing saying a few words as to why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted August 31, 2011 Share #74 Posted August 31, 2011 I beleive proposing venues for the next challenge during dinner on the Saturday after a couple of glasses is not a smart way to go. We need to sober up the whole selection process ... Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted August 31, 2011 Share #75 Posted August 31, 2011 I beleive proposing venues for the next challenge during dinner on the Saturday after a couple of glasses is not a smart way to go. We need to sober up the whole selection process ...Carl I think it comes down to that thing of inclusive vs. exclusive thinking - it's best (IMHO) that a selection be made after the event, so lessons, if any, can be learned and taken on board, then a selection made by as wide a group as possible, ideally the whole forum. This should increase participation and take up and would tend to rule out wild card/ difficult to get to places naturally. I'd also suggest advertising and encouragement to participate in the German forum, so this doesen't just become an event for 'the International Guys'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted August 31, 2011 Share #76 Posted August 31, 2011 I think it comes down to that thing of inclusive vs. exclusive thinking - it's best (IMHO) that a selection be made after the event, so lessons, if any, can be learned and taken on board, then a selection made by as wide a group as possible, ideally the whole forum. This should increase participation and take up and would tend to rule out wild card/ difficult to get to places naturally. I'd also suggest advertising and encouragement to participate in the German forum, so this doesen't just become an event for 'the International Guys'. IMO the principal problem with opening up the selection of venues is that it will become unwieldy with a very large number of places being suggested. The next problem is how/who will do the whittling down to the more usual 3-5 final choices? It just strikes me as a cumbersome procedure. My view is that, as before, those taking part suggest venues, and IIRC it was done at the initial pre-challenge lunch when we should all be in possession of (most of) our critical faculties! . The entire Forum membership can then vote on the (3 or 5 or whatever) selected venues to arrive at a final choice. I agree that it should be promoted in the German Forum, as we don't seem to get enough participants from that group (Berlin being the obvious exception which perhaps says something). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted August 31, 2011 Share #77 Posted August 31, 2011 Not necessarily that cumbersome, it's just discussion and data - you simply list the venues suggested and run a first ballot, then vote for real on the top 3-5 as you suggest. That way if someone (for example Carl, Steve, or James) who cannot go has a great idea, then it's included, to everyone's benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted August 31, 2011 Share #78 Posted August 31, 2011 Ps In the case of frivolous or malicious suggestions, or troll attacks, you just let the mods handle it as normal and offer Bill a casting vote if required, as it might be argued that he has intellectual property on the idea, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick De Marco Posted October 3, 2011 Share #79 Posted October 3, 2011 Re-reading the thread about hotels after I just booked ours. we shall be staying the the 'Grand Hotel Wagner', which I believe is in the Medieval Town. Not least because, I read, one of my favourite Italian film's, Visconti's The Leopard, used the hotel for some of the interiors. I hear the American Bar serves a nice cocktail so, unless there is a better idea, might be a nice place for a Friday night post dinner (post 10pmish) cocktail meet up for those around then? Nick - I can send my mobile number by pm to anyone around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 4, 2011 Share #80 Posted October 4, 2011 On the subject of venue, I too voiced 'concerns' about Palermo simply due to the fact that flights weren't daily and I suspected that it would put off potential attendees. I can't attend due to having started a new job and lack of holiday time - if the challenge had been somewhere that one could fly to on a Friday PM and return on Sunday then it wouldn't have been an issue. When considering next years venue please remember where most of the participants will be travelling from, I know we can't please everyone, but a destination that is relatively easy to reach, and can be done within a weekend. I think one of our best attended weekends was Berlin? I also think it's time for a return to London for the 10th challenge, and not just because it suits me well! The first Challenge was later in the year, a very cold dark afternoon I recall. Whilst it's great that the Challenge has continued and grown (day AND night photography!!) I think it's also important to keep it as an event that is primarily fun and sociable, and accessible to as many 'local' forum members as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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