JHAG Posted January 4, 2011 Share #61 Posted January 4, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In a word, you convinced me to spill 69 € more for that upgrade. Always Jamie's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie Roberts Posted January 4, 2011 Share #62 Posted January 4, 2011 In a word, you convinced me to spill 69 € more for that upgrade.Always Jamie's fault. The selective edits alone are worth it, as is the huge (I mean huge!) improvement to the JPEG engine Oh, and the colour is still superb. Just checked against the latest ACR... no contest IMO... be interested to know what you think with all the new controls against Raw Developer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 4, 2011 Share #63 Posted January 4, 2011 A good fault IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi4 Posted January 4, 2011 Share #64 Posted January 4, 2011 I agree entirely with Jamie. I do have one problem which is presently a support case. Prints made with C1 using the profiles I made with i1pro do not exactly match my profiled screen. If I develop as tif and then print from PSCS5 or LR3 using the exact same profiles and settings the match with the screen is perfect. The prints from C1 are slightly darker and a tiny bit too cyan, very apparent in skies. The runaround via photoshop isn't that much of a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted January 4, 2011 Share #65 Posted January 4, 2011 The selective edits alone are worth it, as is the huge (I mean huge!) improvement to the JPEG engine Oh, and the colour is still superb. Just checked against the latest ACR... no contest IMO... be interested to know what you think with all the new controls against Raw Developer See ? You read this, my friends. He can't help it. There he goes again. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 4, 2011 Share #66 Posted January 4, 2011 See ? You read this, my friends.He can't help it. There he goes again. :D Wow. Never been compared to Reagan before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted January 4, 2011 Share #67 Posted January 4, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow. Never been compared to Reagan before If you insist… YouTube - Heil myself Check 1:15. :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 5, 2011 Share #68 Posted January 5, 2011 If you insist… YouTube - Heil myself Check 1:15. Ok Johan, that was just weird LOL! I'm not insisting on anything! Am I Jack Benny? I play the violin about as well... Or Lubitsch? (Love Lubitsch! Have you seen "Trouble in Paradise?") ... I didn't see anything at 1:15 except someone at a desk.... Ok--back to Capture One v6... have you tried the new colour editor and BW interface? Very nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted January 5, 2011 Share #69 Posted January 5, 2011 Ok Johan, that was just weird LOL! I'm not insisting on anything! Am I Jack Benny? I play the violin about as well... Or Lubitsch? (Love Lubitsch! Have you seen "Trouble in Paradise?") ... I didn't see anything at 1:15 except someone at a desk.... Ok--back to Capture One v6... have you tried the new colour editor and BW interface? Very nice Maybe the "Heil Myself" famous line was a bit sooner. If you play the violin as well, you may be Kubinsky, or let's see, Rosinzky. No, what am I thinking about, Robertsky of course ! I've seen all Lubitsch. But my favourite one, apart To be or not to be, might be Trouble in Paradise, with the master opening scene of the gondoliere collecting the garbage singing O Sole Mio under the moonlight. :D I love the new interface, especially the whole BW workspace and the printing workspace. Regarding Raw Dev, I'm still using it for portraits where I really want great neutrality (remember the one I've sent to you ?). But obviously the GUI is quite primitive compared to C1. Well, 69 € Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 7, 2011 Share #70 Posted January 7, 2011 I finally bit the bullet and upgraded from 5 Pro to 6 Pro even though my main processor remains Lightroom 3.3. The colors (especially skin tones) from Adobe have continually improved with each new version and now are quite good IMO, particularly if you develop your own profiles. I had been trying to convince myself that now the colors were good enough so that I no longer needed Capture One. In playing with the Version 6 trial I re-processed some studio shots I had previously done in Lightroom and once again saw the skin tones that prompted me to get Capture One in the first place. The difference is subtle, but important to me. Version 6 also gives me the capability to selectively edit the skin tone of each member of a couple. This allowed me to accurately process some couple shots that had been difficult due to the interaction of the wife's makeup with the light from my studio strobes. I use selective editing a lot. The Capture One implementation for color and skin tones is superior to that of Lightroom, which requires the use of color filters to accomplish local color corrections. Now if C1 could add a gradient filter that would be something! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi4 Posted January 7, 2011 Share #71 Posted January 7, 2011 Exactly why I also remain faithful to Capture One. I do wish the selective editing could also activate more adjustments, but give me a finger and I soon want the whole hand..arm...etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 8, 2011 Share #72 Posted January 8, 2011 I just processed a folder of M8.2 images in both Lightroom 3.3 and Capture One 6. Results from both were excellent, but I noticed moire in several of the Lightroom versions that was either not present or much less pronounced in the Capture One versions. In C1 the Moire Tool easily eliminated it. Unfortunately Lightroom lacks such a tool. Did I miss the memo that Lightroom tends to reveal moire more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 10, 2011 Share #73 Posted January 10, 2011 ... I noticed moire in several of the Lightroom versions that was either not present or much less pronounced in the Capture One versions. In C1 the Moire Tool easily eliminated it. Unfortunately Lightroom lacks such a tool. Did I miss the memo that Lightroom tends to reveal moire more? After doing some on line searching I found a method for correcting moire in Photoshop. So I created a Photoshop action using that method that is pretty effective. Now I am back to where I started - correcting moire is not really an issue for either Capture One or Lightroom/Photoshop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Monkhouse Posted January 10, 2011 Share #74 Posted January 10, 2011 How long ago was it that Capture One 5 came out? Phase One seems to be on an insanely frequent path of "major" upgrades that require ever more money! I like Capture One but Phase One's upgrade frequency may be all of the push that I need to switch to Lightroom full time. I have to say that this thought had crossed my mind, I too had just updated to v 5 and was seriously annoyed to be informed that there was now a v 6 and it would cost me. So I will not be upgrading and having checked out the changes by running the 30 days I cannot see what the benefits to me would be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 10, 2011 Share #75 Posted January 10, 2011 After doing some on line searching I found a method for correcting moire in Photoshop.... Luke--would you describe the method or post a link? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 10, 2011 Share #76 Posted January 10, 2011 Luke--would you describe the method or post a link? Thanks. Howard The PDF at this link is what I use. http://www.photoshopsupport.com/photoshop-blog/09/cs4-07/gry-pdf/CS4-Moire-Extract.pdf The last step in my use is to create a layer mask of the moire correction and apply the correction just to the area experiencing moire. Applying it to the entire image can cause some slight color shifts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 10, 2011 Share #77 Posted January 10, 2011 I have to say that this thought had crossed my mind, I too had just updated to v 5 and was seriously annoyed to be informed that there was now a v 6 and it would cost me. So I will not be upgrading and having checked out the changes by running the 30 days I cannot see what the benefits to me would be... David, I am sympathetic to your viewpoint, but if you are content with Ver 5, the advent of of Ver 6 does not prevent Ver 5 from functioning perfectly. I have upgraded to Ver 6 and it does contain functions useful to me. However, if those new or improved functions are not used, upgrade is pointless. Similarly, if/when the M10 is released, my M9 will continue to serve me admirably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 11, 2011 Share #78 Posted January 11, 2011 I have to say that this thought had crossed my mind, I too had just updated to v 5 and was seriously annoyed to be informed that there was now a v 6 and it would cost me. So I will not be upgrading and having checked out the changes by running the 30 days I cannot see what the benefits to me would be... Of course, C1 is playing a bit of function catchup; for years people complained that they never made a major upgrade to the program. It seemed like years I was using v3 and v4--probably because it *was* years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 11, 2011 Share #79 Posted January 11, 2011 I agree entirely with Jamie. I do have one problem which is presently a support case. Prints made with C1 using the profiles I made with i1pro do not exactly match my profiled screen. If I develop as tif and then print from PSCS5 or LR3 using the exact same profiles and settings the match with the screen is perfect. The prints from C1 are slightly darker and a tiny bit too cyan, very apparent in skies. The runaround via photoshop isn't that much of a problem. I posted this elsewhere, but just in case.... I haven't done enough printing from C1 v6 to know what it's like... they actually surprised me by adding soft proofing and a print engine. However, I wonder if all the settings are the same from C1 to PS when you see differences in the print? I can't speak to the cyan, but is the rendering intent (perceptual, relative colorimetric) the same in PS and C1? I'm asking because that's one way they could be very different with the same output profile... And PS does have a great print facility.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 12, 2011 Share #80 Posted January 12, 2011 I too have just noticed a slight Cyan cast in C1 direct prints. They may be a bit darker as well. My usual printing is done with Qimage. It would be very convenient to print direct from the RAW file in C1 sometimes, but for the present I will stick with Qimage because of other advantages. My biggest worry at present is frequent crashing of C1 when attempting what I rate as 'heavy' visual corrections. eg. 'keystone' changes or sudden actions. I suspect my video card is the culprit, not C1, as crashes occur with other software as well, or even just sitting looking at the screen! My computer mechanic is on holiday till next week unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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