iphoenix Posted November 15, 2010 Share #21 Posted November 15, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ok saw a nippon kogaku and I'm trying to buy it, have you tried using it with the leicas? I'll save the summicron buying until next month, don't have enough money atm, hope the kogaku works now! If you decide to buy a Nippon Kogaku (Nikkor) lens, only their screw mount lenses will fit a Leica M-series and then only with the Leitz or Voigtlander adaptor. Most rangefinder Nikon lenses were in bayonet fitting for their own cameras. These are not compatible with Leica camera bodies. They did though, make some lenses in leica screw mount, most of which being for Nicca cameras. It is those which, via an adaptor, will fit your M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted November 15, 2010 Share #22 Posted November 15, 2010 Hi, As above, any LTM = Leica Thread Mount = 39mm screw thread lenses will fit your M6 with an LTM/M adaptor. You need one for the correct focal length of lens so that it has the correct lug to bring up the correct frame lines. Don't worry if you can't find the correct one at first as you can always use the frame preview lever. If you're on a budget look at the Voigtlander screw lenses, the Skopar 35mm 2.8 is a very fine lens! Alternatively try an old 5cm Elmar 3.5, it's an amazing little lens (comes in thread mount, tiny lens, or M mount). As for the camera, check the meter, look at the shutter blinds (careless people can burn holes in the shutter curtains by leaving their lens caps off all the time!), check the shutter (fire at 1 second and count it, then see if the other speeds seem to speed up), and trust your instincts! Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boygunting Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share #23 Posted November 15, 2010 I saw the new elmar 50mm for 800 euros today, might wait a week or so and maybe just buy that, thanks for all the tips, will check the shutter curtain as you've said, my friend told me to do it as well, can't wait for this camera now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 15, 2010 Share #24 Posted November 15, 2010 Here you may find a checklist for what to look at a second hand M. Leica M Buyer's Checklist The prices for repairs given are from 2004, so you should exspect them to be higher now. Though with a M6 you shouldn't have too much repair problems, if you don't find a real problem with the points given in the checklist. The 50 Elmar is a classical lens, and very useful if you don't need it faster for low light. I am astonished about the price. When I bought one in mint condition about two years ago it was around 600 €, which was the standard price then (when it was in the Leica catalgue for the last time in 2006 it was 800,- new.) So obviously it's a lens you can use and gain money with afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 16, 2010 Share #25 Posted November 16, 2010 Sorry to contradict James but be very careful with Voigtlander lenses. Their QC makes Leica look brilliant and if they are wrong, it can be impossible to correct e.g the Color Skopar 35/2.5 (I don't think they made an f2.8 but I may be wrong), as the internal element barrel also forms the RF cam on its rear edge. I have one that makes a good paper weight. I bought a new 21 Skopar that went straight back to the dealer in exchange for a Zeiss Biogon ZM 21 - it was totally unusable. My final Voigtlander, a 35/1.2 needed adjustment before it was right and even then, was pretty low contrast and flare prone. Although the Zeiss ZM lenses are made by Cosina Voigtlander, the standard of manufacture is wholly different with Zeiss inspectors in the process. If you cannot afford Leica, IMHO, Zeiss lenses are pretty much as good, usually at lower price point, especially second hand. I have a 25/2.8 ZM Biogon and 50/2 ZM Planar, which are first class. I have had ZM35 and 21 Biogons, which were equally good. With the M6, you don't have the coding issue that you have with the M8 and 9. You may find most older Canon/Nikon/Leica/Taylor Hobson/Wray etc LTM lenses quite low contrast for colour work but excellent for black and white. I use a 1953 50/2 Summitar on an LTM to LM adapter ring and a 1955 Opton-Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar on an Amadeo Muscelli Contax to Leica M adapter, mainly on my M4 with Rollei B&W film but sometimes on my M8 or 9. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted November 16, 2010 Share #26 Posted November 16, 2010 Wilson, there is indeed a C/V 35mm/2.8 in M mount. My experiment with it ended very quickly as I found very bad decentering. The old man with left decentering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphoenix Posted November 16, 2010 Share #27 Posted November 16, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wilson and Lars, thank you for the "heads-up" on Voigtlander lenses. I've been seriously considering both 35 and 21mm C/V's and will now try them before buying. What's your opinion of their 25mm? Rgds, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 17, 2010 Share #28 Posted November 17, 2010 Wilson and Lars, thank you for the "heads-up" on Voigtlander lenses. I've been seriously considering both 35 and 21mm C/V's and will now try them before buying. What's your opinion of their 25mm? Rgds, David David, It is a tiny little lens and I have been tempted. It was on special offer at a French photo show I went to 2 years ago. That was the old snapshot LTM model. I didn't for two reasons. My previous poor experience with CV lenses and the fact that the LTM (now discontinued) model is not RF coupled. The new M mount is coupled. I felt at f4 it was also one stop too slow as I intended much of its use to be interiors. I ended up buying this summer, after a very strong recommendation from Lars, the 25/2.8 Zeiss ZM Biogon, a refurbished, guaranteed ex-demo model. This has now become my second favourite lens for M's after the 35 ASPH Lux, displacing the MATE to third place. It is great for interiors of yachts and buildings. If you can find one of these at a reasonable price, I think ultimately, you would be much happier with it than any CV. The pic with the 25 Biogon below is of the interior of a windmill a friend is rebuilding. The big yellow object is the hub and epicyclic step up gearbox, to which the shaft for the sails will attach on the front (the orange strings are the line of the shaft) and a 3 KVA 19 pole ring DC generator to the output shaft at the rear of the hub. For a wide lens, you can see on this shot that there is no visible distortion, which is important to me. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/136802-need-your-help-and-advice/?do=findComment&comment=1505013'>More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted November 17, 2010 Share #29 Posted November 17, 2010 Regarding the Cosina Voigtlander lenses, I've had the 21mm, the original 25mm and the 35mm f1.7 and had no problems with any of them. Whilst not disputing that their maker's quality control may not be as good as Leica's - or for their own "Zeiss" production line - I don't think it's fair to look upon them as any more potentially problematic than older secondhand lenses. Buying from a dealer with a warranty and/or money-back promise is always the best way to go. If you can find one where you live ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphoenix Posted November 17, 2010 Share #30 Posted November 17, 2010 Thank you gentlemen, and gee Wilson, that Zeiss certainly delivers the goods. Plus it is an interesting shot to me, as we don't have that type of windmill in Australia. Love that technical detail. Guess it's time for a re-think. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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