Pecole Posted November 5, 2010 Share #1 Posted November 5, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Curiously, there has never been a code for this quite uncommon little accessory : the extension shoe made available for the M5. Indeed, the higher body of the camera made it impossible the use of the TXBOO tube with SFTOO/SQTOO frame viewfinders and Telyt 20/40 cm in replacement of the Visoflex. Tipically Leitz, this small accessory was quite complicated to manufacure (and thus relatively expensive), since it embodied a securing blocking ball actuated by an excentric screw system! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/136047-fontenelle-archives-29-extension-shoe-for-m5/?do=findComment&comment=1493474'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Hi Pecole, Take a look here Fontenelle archives 29 . Extension shoe for M5. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
zeitz Posted November 6, 2010 Share #2 Posted November 6, 2010 This riser was released with the Leica M3, not the M5. It came with the finders at that time, and thus did not have a separate code. When the M3 intermediate tube became available, the riser was built into the intermediate tube and the supplemental riser was no longer needed. It is a common misperception that the riser came out for the M5. There was a LHSA Viewfinder article on this topic some years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted November 6, 2010 Share #3 Posted November 6, 2010 The Viewfinder article is in Volume 33, No 2, on page 11. It is written by Leica expert James Lager. It even shows the oversize box the finder and riser came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted November 6, 2010 The Viewfinder article is in Volume 33, No 2, on page 11. It is written by Leica expert James Lager. It even shows the oversize box the finder and riser came in. Thanks a lot for your remark and correction, Lei...sorry : Zeitz. You are perfectly right, and I rushed to my 1968-2009 bound collection of Viewfinders (I have been an LHSA member since the beginning) and to the article by my friend Jim Lager to get illustrated confirmation. My notes were not checked at the time of the publication, and I had forgotten. Shame ! (my wife has another explanation : Alzheimer...). Regards Pierre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted November 6, 2010 Share #5 Posted November 6, 2010 We really owe a debt of gratitude to Jim. He has contributed so much to the collection of knowledge on Leica. I wish I could afford his three magnificant books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted November 6, 2010 We really owe a debt of gratitude to Jim. He has contributed so much to the collection of knowledge on Leica. I wish I could afford his three magnificant books. Another addition to your comment : Jim Lager's books are extraordinary, the only restriction being about the tables, the list of references by codes being extremely limited. But I am very happy to have the de luxe edition of his three "Leica-An illustrated history" volumes, with signed personal dedication. In fact, what has most motivated and helped me in developing my Fontenelle Collection were his three first books "Leica Illustrated Guide" 1 (1975), 2 (1978) and 3 (1979) and a visit I paid to him in New York. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted November 6, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another addition to your comment : Jim Lager's books are extraordinary, the only restriction being about the tables, the list of references by codes being extremely limited. But I am very happy to have the de luxe edition of his three "Leica-An illustrated history" volumes, with signed personal dedication. In fact, what has most motivated and helped me in developing my Fontenelle Collection were his three first books "Leica Illustrated Guide" 1 (1975), 2 (1978) and 3 (1979) and a visit I paid to him in New York. Just another addition, but this time to what I just said about Jim Lager : his book "Leica Literature 1939-1960" published in 1980 is also extremely interesting: Totally different of the Lager-type : 14 x 21,5 cm size, paperback, medium quality illustrations (reproduction of documents) but comprehensive (512 pages). Another "must" for Leica-mads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted November 10, 2010 Share #8 Posted November 10, 2010 Our Wiki has it as YSOOE and shows 2 versions: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/YSOOE Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted November 11, 2010 Our Wiki has it as YSOOE and shows 2 versions:http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/YSOOE Tim Dear Tim, The LeicaWiki entry is wrong : YSOOE is the code of the "low" foot extension, which was specifically designed for early non-rangefinder Leica (to clear the shutter speed dome, as explained by Laney). The higher model - which has a blocking system - has never been given a code. Regards Pierre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted November 11, 2010 Share #10 Posted November 11, 2010 Pecole, The Wiki picture came from Rahn Auction 3 held 2006-05-13: 324 LEICA Sucherschuhe für M 5 und YSOOE für Gewindekameras - sehr selten -. Extension shoes to lift finders. B 120 € 140 - 180 € 150 € in Auction 8 they sell them again (and they become more rare): LEICA Sucherschuhe 373 YSOOE für Gewindekameras und für M 5 in Verbindung mit TXBOO und SFTOO. Rare extension shoes. B150 €190 - 230 € 165 € unfortunately I don't sprechen sie Deutsch, but it looks like they identify YSOOE with M5, as you did. Laney, in his 1st edition pg. 15, doesn't have a picture. He identifys the YSOOE as a lift for SUOOQ, which is a hinged viewfinder from 1934. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/SUOOQ The high shoe, that you show, is beautifully machined. Rahn's low shoe is pressed metal and not so elegant (it looks later). Perhaps there was an earlier shoe, referenced by Laney, and from the 30's. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 11, 2010 Share #11 Posted November 11, 2010 I have one (at least) of those and made some picts about with M8/TXBOO/SQTOO/Telyt5/400 but is on an another harddisc.. not here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 11, 2010 Share #12 Posted November 11, 2010 Dear Tim,The LeicaWiki entry is wrong : YSOOE is the code of the "low" foot extension, which was specifically designed for early non-rangefinder Leica (to clear the shutter speed dome, as explained by Laney). The higher model - which has a blocking system - has never been given a code. Regards Pierre I have just seen them and I confirm what Pierre is telling only the one with the dovetail base can be fitted on VISO I, TZFOO and TXBOO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted November 11, 2010 Share #13 Posted November 11, 2010 The dovetail shoe is for PLOOT/Visoflex I/Intermediate Tube and the 200/400mm finders. It is not YSOOE, which fits regular shoes, not dovetail shoes. The association of the dovetail shoe with the M5 is incorrect; Lager clearly proves it dates to the M3 and IIIG. Laney's otherwise excellent books perpetuate the error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted November 12, 2010 Share #14 Posted November 12, 2010 zeitz - Laney pg. 15: "YSOOE -- Extension foot for SUOOQ, and other finders, to clear shutter speed dome on non-rangefinder Leicas." (what is a shutter speed dome?) Doesn't sound to me like he's perpetuating an error. His notation, written in 1984, is quite different from Lager's. JC & zeitz - Thanks for pointing out the differences in foot designs; I had guessed both would work in either and were merely different height variations. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 12, 2010 Share #15 Posted November 12, 2010 zeitz - Laney pg. 15: "YSOOE -- Extension foot for SUOOQ, and other finders, to clear shutter speed dome on non-rangefinder Leicas." (what is a shutter speed dome?) Tim on this pict you can see it (where it is engraved Ernst Leitz) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted November 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted November 21, 2010 I have one (at least) of those and made some picts about with M8/TXBOO/SQTOO/Telyt5/400 but is on an another harddisc.. not here. found it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 8, 2010 Share #17 Posted December 8, 2010 found it I got a little bit confused by this thread: has this extension shoe a number or five-letter name? I am looking for one to make the TUVOO fit on the M8/9 with the TXBOO and the 200mm Telyt. As I want to place an add, I'd be thankful for the proper description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 9, 2010 Share #18 Posted December 9, 2010 Use the description made by Pecole when he started this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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