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RichardM8

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wlaidlaw

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The noise the M8 shutters make seem quite variable. Mine was never too objectionable, so when I had the upgrade done, I just stuck to the sapphire glass and VF frames. It also meant I could keep 1/8000 sec shutter speed, which I use surprisingly often and miss on my M9. The M9 shutter is quieter but I quite like the very mechanical noise of the original M8. I have a friend whose M8 sounded like a car crashing into a kitchen implements shop. He could not wait for the shutter upgrade. My M9 is if anything, fractionally quieter than an M8-2 or M8-U but again, that is probably down to sample variation. Clive, enjoy your M8.

 

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ThorkilB

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Hi Richard! A lot of congratulations (sorry for my evt. bad spelling) !! What a nice little camera you got there!, and in handsome shape (although someone did something white painting to the "9"-letter :D, but who cares?)

Nice pictures !!! and say cheers to Mike (and ask him to be aware of your beer, cause you are soon spilling(!)) although I can hear Mike you are aware of that you forgot to push the AF-bottun :D.

I like the pictures! But I would like to ask what you do with your pictures, cause I insist in that I see so many weird colors from M8-pictures. Perhaps its not the M8 to blame but the man/woman behind (and their taste for colors..).

Do you use auto WB? and shooting raw and just convert them to jpeg in Lightroom, adding something, more saturation, brightnes, sharpnes? because I find find them full of clarity and "presence"

Perhaps I should try to post some of my D3 pictures to explain why I desperately need that M8/9. If I can find out to post some at all..not sure

Wilson it sounds good that one could be lucky that the M8 sounds nice and relatively silent, and pehaps better with a solid "clonk" than a car-accident...! :rolleyes:

Thorkil

Richard, How much did you pay for the camera alone?

(haven't got acces to sein reid yet even though I've paid...but guessing he is bussy testing...or sleeping)

PPS, forgot to say Richard, that I can see you have grown up since that little picture from your youth...:-)

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From a walk last sunday, 14mm (14-24) D3

Sorry, thats the first time I try this, wrong size etc. And even though the 14-24mm lense should be sharp I think they miss the clarity I see from M-pictures

1. 14mm f. 2.8 1/60 320 Iso

2. 14mm f. 2.8 1/320 200 iso

3. 15mm f. 2.8 1/100 200 iso

hhhmmm claimed that I hated shallow dof but should just try it out...

(the little casttle ("Erimitageslottet") was build in 1694 (but rebuild in 1736..) as a little hunting-castlle in the "Dyrehaven" (deergarden) just north of Copenhagen where the Kings used it for lunch-eating (still do...just today its the queens husbond) while they were hunting a couple of times a year....hhmm..

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Hi Thorkil,

 

I'm afraid I can't give you any 'one size fits all' advise on post processing. I've worked with PS, various plug-ins and Lightroom for many years. And tried other programs along the line. Since LR3 came out I only use Lightroom.

I thread every image differently. When I open an image in LR I look at it an decide what - I think - needs to be done depending on the scene, lighting, mood and look I tried to capture taking the shot. Sometimes I do virtually nothing, sometimes a lot. No two shots are the same. Rare exceptions aside, the only things I always do is put horizons level and correct perspective errors and lens distortion as much as possible. Very annoying but that's personal.

 

I only shoot RAW(DNG) and covert to JPGs with LR. So (auto)WB isn't really a concern.

 

The deal I made with my dealer is kind of a 'package'. The only thing that was important to me is what I had to pay including the trade-in of my spotless X1. So if this bottom line comes from a high trade-in value of my X1, low price of the M8.2 body or some discount on the new Elmarit + filter or a bit of all three is irrelevant. But if I had to 'separate' the body I guess it would be slightly below 40% of a new M9 body.

 

I like your image of the castle (besides the perspective errors) but I'm not sure what they should show with regards to why you need an M?

 

 

Richard.

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Hi richard, yes..and thanks...natually it has to differ from picture to picture, and perhaps I just can rely on that the colors of a M8 are just up til that of the M9's. If I had a pro version of the C1 I guess it could manage the wide-correction of that lense too. Most people use ligthroom I guess and perhaps the raw-engine here now equal that of the C1, and perhaps its more user-friendly too.

No perhaps not (about need for an M) but I still think that I miss that clarity and sharpness that 14-24mm lense else is claimed and praised for...nothing quite like the M's and the hasselblads, a bit "flat" I think.

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thanks Mike :) I guess you are right... I don't either like too much correction so it becomes an unnaturel look, so better to see its a wiide lens, with all its "naturel" faults (so is the SWC when you dont keep it in water-level....like them rather wide most of the time...can sometimes give some weird and zooming in the nice way..even some people can get seasick..:rolleyes:

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Mike, I'll try to listen to it tomorrow:)

Have you considered shifting (to an affordable M8), and put your zeis glasses their-on?

Had a thought what about doing a non-competition just a comparison..??

Getting Richard and Clive and..?...to take shots with their new M8's and we could do the Nikon-shooting and perhaps get some others with their new M9's to join (Rob..?..and...?)

Dont remember your lenses, got an 18 Zeis? Perhaps put on the widest.

And the shots should be taking from next sunday/saturday and ca. 1 week further on, and should contain 3 shots (just booring shots, not particular ambitious!)

(just to see the difference in appearence, glow etc.)

The shots should/could be:

 

1. cafélife

2. street (hip-shot)

3. inner-city (just the nearest)

 

and the rules could be:

 

- shooting in raw/DNG

- simpel converting to JPEG-files in C1, Lightroom, CaptureNX-2, or?

- no processing except the exposure-slider, only to give more or less light, no more

- no corrections for wide lenses etc.

 

How about it guys(and girls?)?

:rolleyes:

Thorkil

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I'm amazed at the things I find out about myself. To wit, I would REALLY like a Leica with a black spot a'la the M8.2. So cool!

 

Is that reason enough to change my M9 order for the M8.2? I may be crazy, but I'm not completely superficial....yet.

 

(Not accusing any 8 owners of superficiality.)

 

Best,

 

Mitchell

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I'm amazed at the things I find out about myself. To wit, I would REALLY like a Leica with a black spot a'la the M8.2. So cool!

 

Is that reason enough to change my M9 order for the M8.2? I may be crazy, but I'm not completely superficial....yet.

 

(Not accusing any 8 owners of superficiality.)

 

Best,

 

Mitchell

 

No - you can easily buy different coloured spots from various sources. eBay and DAG just to mention 2. In my eyes, the black dot on a black camera looks just plain dull, although all my Leicas are chrome or grey.

 

Wilson

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