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Thank you Shtarka & Louis; and –

 

Ben, if you look back here could you tell me more about where 'radials' come from & what to do about them? Or could I hear from someone else who understands them? I haven't done anything to/about them in this image; the gray lines around the darker figure just appeared 'all by themselves.'

 

I thought this might be a peculiarity of the 75 Cron, which I've never used much; but I hadn't noticed this before. Can I prevent it? Should I just select a swath around the fellow & blur it in the range you mentioned?

 

I bought the Cron because I could carry & focus it so much easier than the Lux I'd borrowed (from Linda/andcolor). But if it's going to do this in back-light, then I think I should swap for a Lux even if I can't carry or focus it very well!

 

Kirk

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Kirk -

 

These are superb!

 

I've long wondered where those "radicals" came from, and I encourage you to PM Ben about it. When you hear from him please share the info.

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Here's my effort at the fix that Ben suggested. I made a mask to go over the gray outline around the background figure, made it into a new layer, & then applied Gaussian blur. But I had to go all the way up to 22 to reduce the outline. I hope Ben will come back with more explanation/advice about radials. (I hadn't even heard the term before, except re: tires.)

 

Kirk

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Kirk, I've had my head in work. Don't know the optical reasons. I see them more often with super sharp lens, like the 75 cron, and just think they are artifacts in the oof areas. In your attempt, it is overdone. There are 2 methods I use: 1) a slight Lens Blur (3-6) over just the most blatant areas will provide the cure. Sometimes a second application, often at a lower count will work. 2) This always works, but it takes a bit more effort: New layer, use the Contrast /Brightness contrast control to first lower the contrast and slightly increase the brightness till it blends in with the rest of the oof area. The goal is to not have the eye get "stuck" on the artifacts. It takes some trial & effort, but it really pays off, particularly with B&W work. Think of it as using cheesecloth in the darkroom to dodge/smudge the light.

 

Here's a quick jab at it.

 

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Kirk, wonderful shots! Ben, I am eavesdropping on your idea... Tri:)

 

Tri & Kirk, Scott Kelby's 7 point system as an encyclopedia of methods to experiment with to solve many of this issues. I recommend this book to everyone. It opens so many possibilities & gives you real world problems to solve. In the end, after a while, you take & pick different pieces to get the results that you want. :D

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