jmteno76 Posted May 4, 2010 Share #1  Posted May 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) My first digital camera that I loved was the Panasonic LC! - I still have photos framed from that camera. There is quality of the picture that is very distinctive that I really like. Occasionally, I will get that quality out of D700 with 50 1.4. I read Steve Huff review of the Leica X1 - one shot reminded me of the LC1 --So I splurged on the X1 (as one friend said, you could have gone to St. John). Yet, I really like the IQ out of this camera. So is this the lens, light or something else? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/120169-is-the-lens-the-light-or/?do=findComment&comment=1313925'>More sharing options...
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lct Posted May 4, 2010 Share #2 Â Posted May 4, 2010 Honestly the pic above could have been shot with a lot of APS cameras (and could be sharper IMO). What you like here is perhaps the swallower DoF than that of small sensor cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmteno76 Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share #3  Posted May 4, 2010 One thing that I forgot to mention is that it is significant crop. I was struck by level of detail particularly in his chin area. You are right the eyes are soft. It is not just dof. For me, there is something distinctive about the detail and clarify even when you doing a substantial crop.  My other camera that I carry with me with Cannon S90 - I don't think I would get this level of detail.  Joan Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/120169-is-the-lens-the-light-or/?do=findComment&comment=1313948'>More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted May 4, 2010 Share #4 Â Posted May 4, 2010 I would think lens and sensor give you clarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 4, 2010 Share #5 Â Posted May 4, 2010 ...My other camera that I carry with me with Cannon S90 - I don't think I would get this level of detail... The S90 is a small sensor camera as well. APS-Cs are different beasts IMHO but the Elmarit of the X1 is close to the Elmarit-M 24/2.8 which is one of the very best 24mm available so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
len_gee Posted May 4, 2010 Share #6 Â Posted May 4, 2010 My first digital camera that I loved was the Panasonic LC! - I still have photos framed from that camera. There is quality of the picture that is very distinctive that I really like. Occasionally, I will get that quality out of D700 with 50 1.4. I read Steve Huff review of the Leica X1 - one shot reminded me of the LC1 --So I splurged on the X1 (as one friend said, you could have gone to St. John). Yet, I really like the IQ out of this camera. So is this the lens, light or something else? Â Greetings, Â Looks a tad OOF to me and nothing exceptional. Like it has been said, picture could have been taken with a Canon G series camera, and maybe would be a bit sharper? Â Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 4, 2010 Share #7 Â Posted May 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...picture could have been taken with a Canon G series camera... DoF would have been way wider. Difficult to get optical blur with small sensor cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badbob Posted May 5, 2010 Share #8 Â Posted May 5, 2010 My first digital camera that I loved was the Panasonic LC! - I still have photos framed from that camera. There is quality of the picture that is very distinctive that I really like. Occasionally, I will get that quality out of D700 with 50 1.4. I read Steve Huff review of the Leica X1 - one shot reminded me of the LC1 --So I splurged on the X1 (as one friend said, you could have gone to St. John). Yet, I really like the IQ out of this camera. So is this the lens, light or something else? Â What it is (that I see) is it looks less digital than most digital cameras - which is real good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijam Posted May 5, 2010 Share #9 Â Posted May 5, 2010 People who owned the X1 knows how was the IQ. X1 produce a good image -IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted May 5, 2010 Share #10 Â Posted May 5, 2010 I heard it was just magic that makes the X1's photos look different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted May 5, 2010 Share #11 Â Posted May 5, 2010 When people see the red dot they instantly become less fuzzy:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan States Posted May 5, 2010 Share #12 Â Posted May 5, 2010 I heard it was just magic that makes the X1's photos look different. Â Yes, but there is not as much magic in the X1 as there is in the M9. They could put more in but the price would go up..It's about $1000 per ounce on the wholesale magic market. Â Resolution is not what makes an image pop. Color depth, rendition of highlights and shadow detail are much more important. x1 files have gobs more flexibility and handle high contrast scenes much better than those from micro sensor cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted May 5, 2010 Share #13 Â Posted May 5, 2010 It's about $1000 per ounce on the wholesale magic market. Â I heard Ricoh got theirs on the grey market... $500 an oz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan States Posted May 5, 2010 Share #14 Â Posted May 5, 2010 I heard Ricoh got theirs on the grey market... $500 an oz. Â Oh, sure, you could do that but who do you go back to the day the magic dies? I'll take my factory backed magic, thank you very much. That same magic also covers bokeh, 3d feeling and "Leitz Glass" for no extra charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 5, 2010 Share #15 Â Posted May 5, 2010 Joan, my advice would be: "Enjoy your X1". If you find the results 'special', that is all that matters. I, also, enjoy the consistent quality results I obtain with my X1. True the camera plays a huge part, but so does the quality and choice of natural lighting and the skill of the photographer. With so many variables it is natural that there will be some owners who will be disappointed while others are elated with the performance and results obtainable from the X1. Enjoy it and continue to strive for even better results. The best pictures have yet to be taken! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmteno76 Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share #16 Â Posted May 5, 2010 Thanks. Sage advice that I am following ! Â Joan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted May 6, 2010 Share #17 Â Posted May 6, 2010 i think in the old film days, the lens was EVERYTHING. at the moment where the photo is recorded on film, the only thing betweet the film and the scene is the lens. nothing else matters. sure there's mirror slap, or shutter blah blah blah. but the only thing between the scene and the film is the lens. that's why japan made cameras to use leica m lenses. affordable camera body, but the lens is all that matters. Â nowadays, it's the lens, the sensor, the computer that writes the jpg or raw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted May 6, 2010 Share #18 Â Posted May 6, 2010 i think that what we are used to seeing more and more is a result of the lens, sensor and firmware combo...m8, m9 or x1. it's not really fair to say that its just a lens that gives your x1 image the "leica look", especially when referring to digital images. i'm not sure how typically "leica" the x1 images can be categorised because I have not seen enough first hand but they certainly are striking straight from such a little camera. getting to that image takes some preparation and forethought but then it does with any leica m camera. nailbiting? a little bit but i always liked a bit of "edge" when shooting. crafted images have a place but like anything else, it takes practice and and intuition and this has to be a good thing, doesn't it?. well, it's sometimes the lens and it's often the light but how you see and what you aim to do with what unfolds before all that, then what you decide to do is what makes it special, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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