kemal_mumcu Posted April 9, 2010 Share #21 Posted April 9, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) 75 'cron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Hi kemal_mumcu, Take a look here Test your eye for Leica lens "fingerprints". I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ezc203 Posted April 9, 2010 Share #22 Posted April 9, 2010 DMR + 28-90mm Vario-Elmarit? Possibly at around 60 to 70mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 9, 2010 Author Share #23 Posted April 9, 2010 One hour to go - I shall reveal all at the 24-hour mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 9, 2010 Author Share #24 Posted April 9, 2010 Ta-da. 90mm Elmarit f/2.8 (original Leicaflex version) on Canon 5D @ f/2.8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted April 9, 2010 Share #25 Posted April 9, 2010 Just out of interest, what exactly would the fingerprint of this lens be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldh Posted April 9, 2010 Share #26 Posted April 9, 2010 50mm Summicron pre-Aspheric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted April 9, 2010 Share #27 Posted April 9, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ta-da. 90mm Elmarit f/2.8 (original Leicaflex version) on Canon 5D @ f/2.8 Cue lots of comments about how plastic the shot now looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 9, 2010 Share #28 Posted April 9, 2010 Rich and Sandro went close to... one of them has to post the next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 9, 2010 Author Share #29 Posted April 9, 2010 Well, Ian - on the one hand I've never really bought the "plastic" description. OTOH the 5D files certainly require a lot more work to delete the fuzzing effects of the AA filter and get the color right, compared to the M8/M9. Add enough sharpening to overcome the AA filter, and the 5D is noisier than either Leica up through ISO 640 (and it is a nasty cloth-textured noise - I can almost see the CMOS circuitry imprinted on my pictures). But for $1000 the 5D is a cheap thrill to hang a Leica 250 on. And with a couple of shorter primes (the reason I was checking out the 90 Elmarit) it will serve as an emergency spare tire if the M9 ever has to go into the shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted April 9, 2010 Share #30 Posted April 9, 2010 I had the Elmarit M 2.8/90 mm in mind, so I am not sure how close that one is to the Leicaflex version that Andy used. I will be at home again next week and I'll think about a continuation, see if I have something that could work. Lex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted April 10, 2010 Share #31 Posted April 10, 2010 Adan, That is an excellent image much to the disappointment of the Leica purists in the house, I would say your combination is more than just a spare tire. You obviously know how to exploit the 5D/Elmarit combo. I have a 90mm Elmarit which I use on my Canon 5D Mark II and quite frankly, I am blown away by what it produces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share #32 Posted April 10, 2010 Well, OK - maybe "spare tire" is a bit much. As I'm getting the hang of the 5DmkI's "special needs" for processing, I respect the results more. Obviously 12 Mpixels with an AA filter is going to be handicapped and I knew that going in. And for $1000 I'm not complaining, just commenting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
palec Posted April 10, 2010 Share #33 Posted April 10, 2010 I'm pretty pleased with the old elmarit wide open performance in your example. In combination with 5D it looks more contemporary than vintage to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted April 10, 2010 Share #34 Posted April 10, 2010 Well, Ian - on the one hand I've never really bought the "plastic" description. OTOH the 5D files certainly require a lot more work to delete the fuzzing effects of the AA filter and get the color right, compared to the M8/M9. I think you might have misunderstood my point. I don't buy the plastic criticism either. I have owned the 5D and think it is a very fine camera indeed (and now a bargain at current used prices). Regarding the 'defuzzing', have you tried running the files through Canon's own DPP? This software usually gets a bad rap on forums but I found it capable of some very nice sharp RAW conversions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share #35 Posted April 10, 2010 No, I saw through the irony and was agreeing with you that I don't see anything "plastic" (which I interpret to mean "smooth and lacking in surface texture") in the 5D RAW images. And as I said to Wilfredo, I'm moving up the learning curve in processing 5D images - very different assumptions about calibration, saturation and sharpening at the RAW stage than I use for the Ms. E.G. sharpening at the raw conversion stage tightens the edges but avoids the pattern noise better than sharpening in Photoshop. Now that I'm getting a handle on the differences, saving them into the defaults for the 5D cuts down on the workload. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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