Guest Essemmlee Posted March 19, 2010 Share #1 Â Posted March 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thinking about purchasing but the pros and cons seem to have now reached an equilibrium. Â To swing it in favour of the pros - what does the OOF look like at each aperture? Â Has anyone taken a shots at say 1m, at each aperture, just to check the bokeh? Â If so please point me in the direction of those pix. Â Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Essemmlee Posted March 19, 2010 Share #2 Â Posted March 19, 2010 That'll be a no then. Â Hardly surprising when there aren't any available to buy or to test. Â Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 19, 2010 Share #3 Â Posted March 19, 2010 I think it is just that most people just go out and take photos and don't do tests like this. To me, there is nothing more tedious than "science testing" a lens. No offense, because if someone else does it, I'll check it out as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted March 20, 2010 Share #4  Posted March 20, 2010 this is from around I m or less @ 2.8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115835-x1-dof/?do=findComment&comment=1266297'>More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted March 20, 2010 Share #5  Posted March 20, 2010 Here it is for you at 1.1 m and f/4. The EXIF contains an amazing amount of information including the exact focus distance. Even the photo subject matter is all Leica and L Camera Forum! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115835-x1-dof/?do=findComment&comment=1266348'>More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted March 20, 2010 Share #6 Â Posted March 20, 2010 Alexc - that is a great example of bokeh at f2.8. Â It seems that at f4 it's gone. Â Like yourselves I'm not one for science, but I am one for knowledge. Â You have helped already - thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryliem Posted March 20, 2010 Share #7  Posted March 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) this is from around I m or less @ 2.8  Here are another samples: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115835-x1-dof/?do=findComment&comment=1266482'>More sharing options...
lct Posted March 20, 2010 Share #8 Â Posted March 20, 2010 You mean the mouse? Â Here it is for you at 1.1 m and f/4. The EXIF contains an amazing amount of information including the exact focus distance.Even the photo subject matter is all Leica and L Camera Forum! Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted March 20, 2010 Share #9 Â Posted March 20, 2010 Alexc - that is a great example of bokeh at f2.8. Â It seems that at f4 it's gone...... Â Interesting viewpoint, but then bo-ke is very much opinion, personal taste and expectation. Perfectly valid for each person of course. Â Misquoting me with someone else's work to make a joke though is just bad manners by LCT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted March 20, 2010 Share #10  Posted March 20, 2010 Alexc - that is a great example of bokeh at f2.8.  It seems that at f4 it's gone.  Like yourselves I'm not one for science, but I am one for knowledge.  You have helped already - thanks.  I had the same concern before I bought the camera. Bokeh at 2.8 is very reasonable to my taste.  The one below is from I think around 50 - 60 cm @3.5  In the lab is @ 2.8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115835-x1-dof/?do=findComment&comment=1266643'>More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted March 20, 2010 Share #11 Â Posted March 20, 2010 Very helpful. Thanks again. Â In fairness, I'm put off by the OOF. It's a no go for me. (not that there are any for sale anyway) Â I'll stay with my D-Lux 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduardoho Posted March 20, 2010 Share #12  Posted March 20, 2010 Photography is not a clinical rendition of captured images, ...it is up to the mastery of a photographer who will render that coveted image by capturing a juxtaposition of well balanced mosaic of blurs and razor sharp scenes...To judge the ability of X1 solely based on bokeh's, DOF's & OOF's is contrary to common sense as a good photographer. Any camera will capture blurred images, but only one a kind camera is able to render that magical razor sharp image. This discussion does not sway my good opinions about the X1. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115835-x1-dof/?do=findComment&comment=1266748'>More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted March 20, 2010 Share #13 Â Posted March 20, 2010 To judge the ability of X1 solely based on bokeh's, DOF's & OOF's is contrary to common sense as a good photographer. Â On a personal level I am not judging the X1 solely on OOF. If you reread my initial post you may note that I had reached a balance of pros and cons. This thread and it's responses assisted me in making a judgement call. Â ...........and I'm not a good photographer either!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduardoho Posted March 20, 2010 Share #14 Â Posted March 20, 2010 ...your point is well taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 20, 2010 Share #15 Â Posted March 20, 2010 ....Misquoting me with someone else's work to make a joke though is just bad manners by LCT Sorry Geoff my bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 20, 2010 Share #16 Â Posted March 20, 2010 ...I'm put off by the OOF. It's a no go for me. (not that there are any for sale anyway)... I'll stay with my D-Lux 4. I don't own an X1 myself but i have spent some time developping raw files from it. So far i haven't seen doubled lines in the backgrounds or bright OoF zones having sharp edges. Just some 'modern' bokeh i.e. somewhat sharper than what one can get with older lenses. Way better than the lack of bokeh from small sensor cameras anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted March 20, 2010 Share #17 Â Posted March 20, 2010 "Way better than the lack of bokeh from small sensor cameras anyway" Â well said. I never got anything close to what you can get from lux, noctil or other fast leica glass for that matter. However x1 still allows you to isolate the subject better than dlux4 and bokeh is much better (to my taste) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted March 21, 2010 Share #18  Posted March 21, 2010 On a personal level I am not judging the X1 solely on OOF. If you reread my initial post you may note that I had reached a balance of pros and cons. This thread and it's responses assisted me in making a judgement call. ...........and I'm not a good photographer either!!!!!!!!!  In all fairness mate, if you do acknowledge that you are not a good photographer, then that's exactly the reason you MUST buy this camera. Forget all about bokehs or whatever they called, because this little -but expensive- camera will propel you to photography in the right way. Many reasons for this: easy to use, light, compact, with AF, with the core photography elements in a couple of dials, good lens, no zoom to mess with and all of that means you focus where it counts: in composing I wouldn't think of a better tool for you, for the above reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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