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If you were expecting the X1 to be a rugged go anywhere camera then you could not have done your homework properly.

 

However, if you are still yearning for something with a Leica lens that will cope with sewer environments and which is also pocketable then consider this model ...

 

Panasonic unveils DMC-TS1 rugged compact camera: Digital Photography Review

 

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If you were expecting the X1 to be a rugged go anywhere camera then you could not have done your homework properly.

 

However, if you are still yearning for something with a Leica lens that will cope with sewer environments and which is also pocketable then consider this model ...

 

Panasonic unveils DMC-TS1 rugged compact camera: Digital Photography Review

 

dunk

No you didn't get it all... Lumix DMC-TS1 by far is not a match to the X1's superb Sony's APS-C ccd sensor and its serious ability to capture sparkling crisp images under low ambient lighting.

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I have a vision of you wading through sewers with all the echoing accoustics and condensation falling and dripping from the sewer walls/roof and your X1 getting soaked ... maybe there will be a waterproof housing available for it soon.

 

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I don't understand the original post at all. Makes no sense whatsoever.

 

And the thread itself is pretty baffling.

 

What was the OP's point again? Something about being unhappy because a Leica X1 is not designed to be used in a sewer without a waterproof housing? What would be the point of that?

 

My Nikon D3 would probably be unhappy in a sewer as well, unless it was in a waterproof housing. Is Nikon therefore a doomed company or disrespecting its heritage?

 

Like I said, makes no sense...

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The X1 which I got was intended to be used in harsh field conditions, i.e. in active sewer lines taking subsurface photos

In sewers you need fully sealed cameras which can be washed and disinfected, if ,that is, they are likely to get 'damp'. If they stay dry then like may other none sealed cameras, the X1 will be fine. What's your point?

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Not wishing to derail the amusement, but in a sewer apart from aromatic compounds that we all have come to like one has to deal with potentially explosive concentrations of methane. Spark => big explosion, so you need a camera that does not let the gas enter and/or does not spark via mechanical (unsealed) switches.

 

I can imigine that there is a desire for compact, portable, good high ISO cameras for such professional use. Whether the X1 is suitable is not clear to me, I would expect the voltage of the battery is so low that it cannot cause ignition via sparking. The HV flash is another matter. As a non expert I would think that the risks are limited but WTF do I know about this? Not much.

 

This is not a point of ridicule, it is life or death.

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Not wishing to derail the amusement, but in a sewer apart from aromatic compounds that we all have come to like one has to deal with potentially explosive concentrations of methane. Spark => big explosion, so you need a camera that does not let the gas enter and/or does not spark via mechanical (unsealed) switches.

 

I can imigine that there is a desire for compact, portable, good high ISO cameras for such professional use. Whether the X1 is suitable is not clear to me, I would expect the voltage of the battery is so low that it cannot cause ignition via sparking. The HV flash is another matter. As a non expert I would think that the risks are limited but WTF do I know about this? Not much.

 

This is not a point of ridicule, it is life or death.

 

Indeed, as it says on Mr Smith's epitaph, he went to check with a candle if there was enough gas in the tank, and there was.

Li Po batteries in cameras, phones pose same , although not as obvilous danger.

I wonder how these people communicate , document the condition when working in this environment,Gas measuring equipment is designed to properly, but I have not seen any cameras or phones suitable for this work.

There must be indeed a good opportunity for a niche camera company here.

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I wonder how these people communicate , document the condition when working in this environment,Gas measuring equipment is designed to properly, but I have not seen any cameras or phones suitable for this work.

 

I would presume that any watertight camera outfit could be used under those conditions. As for communications: I don't think that a cellphone will work in a sewer, being under the ground.

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