rob_x2004 Posted March 10, 2010 Share #21 Â Posted March 10, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The sound made by one censored fish flapping in the dried up amazon forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Hi rob_x2004, Take a look here Leica position in our society?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
h00ligan Posted March 10, 2010 Share #22 Â Posted March 10, 2010 Alow me to put it bluntly.. what exactly has this thread degenerated to? Am I the only one confused by the 'drama'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted March 10, 2010 Share #23 Â Posted March 10, 2010 How bizarre, how bizarre! Â And is ruggerized actually a word? Hand the camera over to the All Blacks, they'll ruggerize it for you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 10, 2010 Share #24  Posted March 10, 2010 If you were expecting the X1 to be a rugged go anywhere camera then you could not have done your homework properly.  However, if you are still yearning for something with a Leica lens that will cope with sewer environments and which is also pocketable then consider this model ...  Panasonic unveils DMC-TS1 rugged compact camera: Digital Photography Review  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduardoho Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share #25  Posted March 11, 2010 If you were expecting the X1 to be a rugged go anywhere camera then you could not have done your homework properly.  However, if you are still yearning for something with a Leica lens that will cope with sewer environments and which is also pocketable then consider this model ...  Panasonic unveils DMC-TS1 rugged compact camera: Digital Photography Review  dunk No you didn't get it all... Lumix DMC-TS1 by far is not a match to the X1's superb Sony's APS-C ccd sensor and its serious ability to capture sparkling crisp images under low ambient lighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 11, 2010 Share #26 Â Posted March 11, 2010 I have a vision of you wading through sewers with all the echoing accoustics and condensation falling and dripping from the sewer walls/roof and your X1 getting soaked ... maybe there will be a waterproof housing available for it soon. Â dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 11, 2010 Share #27 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think you need the Leica S2 eduardoho... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box Brownie Posted March 11, 2010 Share #28 Â Posted March 11, 2010 I don't understand the original post at all. Makes no sense whatsoever. Â And the thread itself is pretty baffling. Â What was the OP's point again? Something about being unhappy because a Leica X1 is not designed to be used in a sewer without a waterproof housing? What would be the point of that? Â My Nikon D3 would probably be unhappy in a sewer as well, unless it was in a waterproof housing. Is Nikon therefore a doomed company or disrespecting its heritage? Â Like I said, makes no sense... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted March 11, 2010 Share #29  Posted March 11, 2010 God, I love this thread but I can't think of anything.. anything to say.  Maybe this  Mark http://moneycircus.blogspot.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 11, 2010 Share #30 Â Posted March 11, 2010 The X1 which I got was intended to be used in harsh field conditions, i.e. in active sewer lines taking subsurface photos In sewers you need fully sealed cameras which can be washed and disinfected, if ,that is, they are likely to get 'damp'. If they stay dry then like may other none sealed cameras, the X1 will be fine. What's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted March 11, 2010 Share #31 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Most amusing; keep on with the good work please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted March 11, 2010 Share #32 Â Posted March 11, 2010 "active sewer lines taking subsurface photos." Maybe that's not to be taken literally. Â Shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted March 11, 2010 Share #33 Â Posted March 11, 2010 Not wishing to derail the amusement, but in a sewer apart from aromatic compounds that we all have come to like one has to deal with potentially explosive concentrations of methane. Spark => big explosion, so you need a camera that does not let the gas enter and/or does not spark via mechanical (unsealed) switches. Â I can imigine that there is a desire for compact, portable, good high ISO cameras for such professional use. Whether the X1 is suitable is not clear to me, I would expect the voltage of the battery is so low that it cannot cause ignition via sparking. The HV flash is another matter. As a non expert I would think that the risks are limited but WTF do I know about this? Not much. Â This is not a point of ridicule, it is life or death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 11, 2010 Share #34 Â Posted March 11, 2010 So is it a crap camera or isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted March 11, 2010 Share #35 Â Posted March 11, 2010 I recommend serenity. Â Consider a shot taken with only the trailing curtain. A suffusion of blue might also help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jank Posted March 12, 2010 Share #36  Posted March 12, 2010 Not wishing to derail the amusement, but in a sewer apart from aromatic compounds that we all have come to like one has to deal with potentially explosive concentrations of methane. Spark => big explosion, so you need a camera that does not let the gas enter and/or does not spark via mechanical (unsealed) switches. I can imigine that there is a desire for compact, portable, good high ISO cameras for such professional use. Whether the X1 is suitable is not clear to me, I would expect the voltage of the battery is so low that it cannot cause ignition via sparking. The HV flash is another matter. As a non expert I would think that the risks are limited but WTF do I know about this? Not much.  This is not a point of ridicule, it is life or death.  Indeed, as it says on Mr Smith's epitaph, he went to check with a candle if there was enough gas in the tank, and there was. Li Po batteries in cameras, phones pose same , although not as obvilous danger. I wonder how these people communicate , document the condition when working in this environment,Gas measuring equipment is designed to properly, but I have not seen any cameras or phones suitable for this work. There must be indeed a good opportunity for a niche camera company here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted March 12, 2010 Share #37 Â Posted March 12, 2010 I wonder how these people communicate , document the condition when working in this environment,Gas measuring equipment is designed to properly, but I have not seen any cameras or phones suitable for this work. Â I would presume that any watertight camera outfit could be used under those conditions. As for communications: I don't think that a cellphone will work in a sewer, being under the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 12, 2010 Share #38  Posted March 12, 2010 So is it a crap camera or isn't it?  Any camera can be used to shoot crap, James  Regards,  Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 12, 2010 Share #39  Posted March 12, 2010 Any camera can be used to shoot crap, James  Regards,  Bill  Apparently, per the OP, this isn't truly the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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