400mm f6.8 Telyt R lens on M9?

[k-hawinkler]

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No - an R lens will not focus to infinity on the Visoflex and the bayonet is bigger

 

Jaap,

 

I understand. Of course you are correct.

From the picture they posted http://im1.ebidst.com/upload_big/1/3/5/1266009790-14163-0.jpg they may have mischaracterized the lens in question.

To me, this lens looks similar to the M Tube 11905 in loveleica's image above.

 

As always, many thanks, K-H.

[lovelyleica]

14127F allows Viso lenses to be used on an R camera. Your only solution to make latest Telyt pictures with M9 is Visoflex III + M tube 11905 + Telyt lens head. Previous picture shows M tube apparently. So it is good to go on Visoflex III.

[k-hawinkler]

14127F allows Viso lenses to be used on an R camera. Your only solution to make latest Telyt pictures with M9 is Visoflex III + M tube 11905 + Telyt lens head. Previous picture shows M tube apparently. So it is good to go on Visoflex III.

 

Thank you. Sorry for misspelling your forum name in my previous post.

[k-hawinkler]

Here is an image from the M9 with Telyt 400mm f5.6 at f=5.6 - while still waiting for delivery of a Tely 400mm f/6.8. As noted on this forum and elsewhere, one can clearly see the out of focus areas near the image edges as the lens has pronounced Curved Field Aberration http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/118570-leica-m9-visoflex-iii-telyt-6-a.html#post1258714. Because of this effect, the foreground is pretty much in focus although I focused on the trees in the snowy meadow near the mountain top. There also is pretty strong vignetting at the upper image corners, but I can't see that effect at the bottom corners. It will be interesting for me to see how the Telyt 400mm f6.8 compares.

 

K-H.

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[Player]

Just quickly pictured my gear and added reference numbers. For M9 you need :

Visoflex III + M Tube 11905 + Telyt 6.8/400 lenshead 11903 (or 6.8/560)

 

R Tube 11906 is made for Leicaflex or Leica with R mount. It will not work on M or Visoflex.

 

Extension tube is made to reduce closest focusing from 3.66m to 2.26m for 400mm.

 

 

 

Hi. First off I'm new here and discovered this forum through Google. So far I'm very impressed by the collective knowledge here. I also have the Telyt 400 R with the R tube 11906 that I'd like to use with my M8 + Visoflex 3. So far I've haven't been able to find an M tube 11905 but when I saw this picture I realized that the tubes are really similar. Maybe it's possible to remove the R-mount in the back, which would shorten it about 3 cm, and attach an M-mount there instead? Has anybody tried anything similar to that?

[leicanut2]

Leica 400mm R lens, M Tube? R tube? length? will it focusing to infinity? Leica 22228 adapter? Anyone remember my little run on this topic. DON'T WORRY not saying a thing..

Sold my 400mm for 300 less than what I paid for it two weeks after getting it.

But good news is my M tube should be here within three weeks for my 560mm..

 

Jan

[Michael Geschlecht]

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Hello k-hawlinker,

 

There seems to be some small confusion about the 14127. The 14127 sets nothing. The 14127 is an adapter that does 2 things: First it provides a 21.8mm spacer for Leicaflex and R series cameras to extend their 47 mm flange to film distance to the 68.8mm of the Visoflex II/III.

 

Second, for the original Leicaflex (not ttl), it allows someone looking thru the viewfinder to adjust the shutter speed and lens opening with the external meter (sort of like using an MC, MR, or MR4 meter on an M while looking from above) and then, as with the aforementioned meters, the person can transfer the lens opening shown on the 14127 (seen where the aperture is traditionally seen on a Standard, Sl, or R with reflex lens mounted) to the M lens aperture control. There is no connection between the aperture selector ring on the 14127 and any lens aperture control.

 

For SL and R cameras it is a 21.8mm spacer, the SL requiring special consideration. It can be used as above with the SL if adapted: 14127*. Both were replaced by the 14167 for SL and R which is a simple 21.8mm spacer without the aperture simulator.

 

Best Regards,

 

Michael

[guy may]

KH,

 

The 14127F is an adapter to allow the earlier M/Visoflex Telyt/Televit combo to fit directly on an R i,e, without a Visoflex. IMHO that makes the earlier Telyt/Televit combo more flexible as it will fit on both M and R. The later T/T combo is R only. If you look, the 14127 has an aperture ring but no diaphragm. This is to activate the cam inside the R body to tell the R body what aperture the lens is set at. You did not mention if you have the aperture body, which fits between the pistol grip/fast focus tube and the lens head, I assume you will be getting this. It is required otherwise the whole thing will not go together. BTW, I have a spare 14127 if anyone would like one - PM me.

 

Wilson

hi is your 14127f still available -how much thanks

guy

[guy may]

hi, re above;still available, if so how much

thanks

guy

[Guest Overview]

I have never had any experience with the Visoflex, But, now that I appreciate

retro mechanisms.... and I just love complicated mechanical devices....

the thing looks VERY interesting to me now. Back in the day, who wanted to mess

with this when a Nikon FTN was available? Uhhhh, one second thought I better not

ask THAT question here. cheers.

[spydrxx]

Response to Player - I looked for a couple of years unsuccessfully for a 11905 tube, as I had the R version (Telyt + 11906), and wanted periodically to use the Telyt on my Viso/M4 and Nikon DSLR. I finally found a series of heavy duty plastic tubes and an old M mount, some compression rings, etc. and cobbled together a rear mount similar to the 11905 which is designed to be used on a Visoflex, and works also on my Nikon DSLR via a Viso->Nikon adapter from Cameraquest. It isn't delicate, but it isn't quite as trustworth as a 11905, but it has nicely filled a need.

[wlaidlaw]

hi, re above;still available, if so how much

thanks

guy

 

PM'd you

 

Wilson

[k-hawinkler]

Sorry, I had lost track of this thread. In case anybody is still interested, the 14127 is at the moment for sale at KEH for $47. A few days ago KEH had the Telyt-M 400/6.8 for sale for $449 in EX condition. It is gone now.

 

My 400mm f/6.8 also turned out to be a Telyt-M. It's a much nicer lens then the 400mm f/5.6.

 

Here is a crop of an image with the M9, Visoflex III and 400/6.8. It shows the Dome Peak Fire Station in the San Miguel Mountains, NM southwest of Bandelier National Monument from White Rock at dusk on 2010.05.13. Viewing distance about 15 miles.

 

In the evening of 2009.07.11 the view from my backyard of the San Miguel Mountains is captured in the next image, taken with a D300, 70-200mm VR F2.8G, TC-20EII2x. One can see individual trees burning. The final image shows the fire the next afternoon. One can recognize the same fire station on top of the mountain as in the first image.

 

Reflecting back on July 2009 I had read about the M8 and its problems, saw its pretty hefty price tag and wondered why anybody would want to buy that camera. At that time I also had no clue that a traditional Leica M was a Meßsucher camera. However, I got interested when the M9 was announced, ah full frame really appealed to me as I had some experience with a Nikon D3. A friend, who got to use his father's rangefinder Leica in his childhood, suggested I ought to become familiar with the Leica-M and add one to my, at the time, exclusive Nikon camera selection. I bought some used lenses in anticipation of the M9 that finally showed up on 2009.12.30. It took me awhile to notice that the frame selector didn't work, so had it repaired in Solms. Then I got interested in Visoflex and Bellows. It's just amazing to me that one can draw on over half a century of mechanical and optical devices and use them on the latest electronic gadget the M9 or with adapters on cameras of different make. WOW, what a fun trip.

 

It's a pleasure to thank all the forum members who have helped in so many ways with my education over time.

The depth of detailed knowledge and the willingness to share by forum members is a truly uplifting experience.

Thanks.

 

Best, K-H.

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[Washington]

Whew, this has been one interesting thread...... and, all this time, I thought the

Hubble Space Telescope was complicated!

[Washington]

The 5.6 lens has stronger CVA, reason the 6.3 was introduced. There is a very extensive and complete description of the Novoflex sytem with all its ramifications in the "Leica M Compendium" by Johnathan Eastland. Imo required reading for any body interested in the Visoflex system, Leica's follow-focus lenses and the Novoflex system. A wealth of information about the M system as well.

 

I just got this book with your recommendation: as I said "just". I haven't read a word

but soon will!!! Thanks much !!!