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Recently, I've been doing a lot of shooting at night and I keep getting this blue/aqua colored spots popping up. Usually in the same patterns as light sources within the frame. What exactly is this? And how can I remedy this?

 

M8, CV 35mm f/1,4 "Classic", Lightroom 2.5

 

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Any pointers would be more than appreciated!

 

All the best,

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You are seeing internal reflections, either within the lens or due to a fitted filter. If you are using the UV/IR with your camera you may like to try removing it for night shots with point light sources like this within the frame.

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UV/IR filter. You can take it off at night, but a much better solution would be to simply buy an M9. :D

 

Is related completely to the lens,is internal reflection in the lens,this lens loves to create flares from strong highlights,a bright sky will be more diffused flare,a point light will be what you are getting,a filter/any filter will amplify the lens flare but filters of high quality cannot create any kind of flare in any good lens.

i use M8 and never had the problem with Leica lenses and some voigtlander

will have exactly the same flare with M9 or any film camera and that lens

the rest is fantasy.I had similar issue with an older pre aspherical 35 cron i sold the lens and replace it with an asph.35 cron and i lost my flares ,in M8,M9 and film Leica MP.

of course a very low quality filter can initiate the flare but cannot focus it so well.

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I agree, I had the same problem with a Nikon lens that had a uv filter on it.

Photographed a wedding with 4 candles on the alter and had 8 on the file. I believe the glass covering-protecting the sensor reflected the light back onto the inside of the filter. In any case remove the filter and I'm sure the problem will disappear also.

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It is definitely the filter. This isn’t lens flare but a fairly typical example of ghost images. Ghost images are created by light reflected off the sensor and then again by the filter. This kind of reflection needs a planar surface such as a filter, and it needs a sensor rather than the more diffuse reflection off a film emulsion. Ghost images are easily recognized as they are horizontal and vertical mirror images of the original highlights. A line connecting the originating light source to its ghost will cross the center of the image:

 

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As Michael said you need two or more flat reflecting surfaces to cause this type of reflection. A way of overcoming the problem is to use filters whose shape is that of a meniscus lens with zero power. Such a filter is used on the Canon 300mm f2.8 Apo for protection of the front element. I believe in the past Pentax used to market a range of zero reflection meniscus filters. I've never found a UV-IR cut filter of that type though. It may not be possible since the filter pass band depends upon angle of incidence of the light (as we well know with the M8's uncorrected cyan corners) which would be variable with a curved filter.

 

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I hate to do this, but Michael's explanation was so clear and informative that I have to say I agree and thanks. That is often true of your posts, but this one was a gem.

 

But the solution is the same... you want an M9. I really don't see any solution that is more viable than this. How can I live with complete internal reflections? Are you listening dear... sweetie... honey... :p

 

p.s. Michael, you are definitely more than 2 standard deviations.

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But the solution is the same... you want an M9. I really don't see any solution that is more viable than this. How can I live with complete internal reflections? Are you listening dear... sweetie... honey... :p

 

p.s. Michael, you are definitely more than 2 standard deviations.

 

Actually, I don't...but that's a different thread.

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If you check the threads here you will see that most M8 magenta issues can be solved with a filter generated by Janie, and modified by others including me.

We are not talking about 500 polyester wedding photos, but for the synthetic fabric and plastic induced magenta (which, btw is the REAL color, we just are not used to seeing iT :-) can be profiled out.

in 2 years I never once used a filter and when I did the cyan drift drove me crazy.

That said, I now have an M9 LOL

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