jackart Posted January 30, 2010 Share #1 Â Posted January 30, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) is most probably volks-Hasselblad H4D. Less modular means no separate back, sensor size 38 x 46 and shutterless CMOS!? Drives cost down a lot! I heard that shutterless design is going to be used in new Lumix camera. Getting rid of mechanical shutter is losing last mechanical part from the cam. makes camera more reliable and lot of cheaper. Â Â source http://www.dslrmagazine.com/profesional/camaras-para-formato-medio/novedades-hasselblad-10-de-fe-2.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Hi jackart, Take a look here Hasselblad's answer to S2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
adan Posted January 30, 2010 Share #2 Â Posted January 30, 2010 we know...http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-s2-forum/114152-leica-rumors-s2-competitor-hasselblad.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 30, 2010 Share #3  Posted January 30, 2010 we know... Knowing that we don't know is the beginning of wisdom my friend. We will know more on Feb. 1rst 2010. Countdown  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted January 30, 2010 Share #4 Â Posted January 30, 2010 The text of the countdown seems like a marketing tool or gallery sharing site, not a camera announcement. Â I guess we will have to wait and see. Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2010 Share #5  Posted February 1, 2010 Clock expired  H4D-40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2010 Share #6  Posted February 1, 2010 More details coming but extremely short version  Kodak TRUESENSE design CCD which is based on the 50MP except with the very useful addition of microlenses, giving 100-1600 ISO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted February 1, 2010 Share #7 Â Posted February 1, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm not getting it? What's the big difference to the previous versions? And I'm talking about that difference that is worth the countdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest farbtupfer Posted February 1, 2010 Share #8 Â Posted February 1, 2010 About $16.500 incl 80 mm... Thats about half the price of an S2... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted February 1, 2010 Share #9 Â Posted February 1, 2010 About $16.500 incl 80 mm... Thats about half the price of an S2... Â That's wrong. This is apparently the price for the H3D-31. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 1, 2010 Share #10 Â Posted February 1, 2010 So far as I can tell (at the moment - 1 leaked partial picture), it is still the same old boxy Hassy D package. Certainly a nice price and some improvement to ISO performance, but if one is looking at the S2 for the form factor, I don't see that the H4D-40 changes that equation much. Â More likely a reponse to Mamiya's aggresive "entry-level"pricing - sub-$10,000 with lens for 22 Mpixels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewittehd Posted February 1, 2010 Share #11 Â Posted February 1, 2010 http://www.hasselblad.com/media/2205994/uk_h4d50_datasheet_v1.pdf Jean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2010 Share #12  Posted February 1, 2010 That's wrong. This is apparently the price for the H3D-31.  I think it is about 19k or slightly more , I see 13995 euro floating around with the new 40 . I did question that price to Hassy also because it said starting at which the H31 is the first in there lineup . I will have the correct price for the H4d 40 tomorrow in all currencies. Remember this is body, back and 80mm lens in the prices  From David Grover / Hasselblad  On my question of price  Hey Guy,  Looks like you beat me to it!  More details over the next few days. Ill put up €,£,$ pricing tomorrow when I am back to the office.  But yes, essentially an H4D40.  The interesting this is this is the Kodak TRUESENSE design CCD which is based on the 50MP except with the very useful addition of microlenses, giving 100-1600 ISO.  So think 50MP benefits with extra sensitivity. It is a really really nice sensor. Personally I like this combination a lot.  David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2010 Share #13  Posted February 1, 2010 So far as I can tell (at the moment - 1 leaked partial picture), it is still the same old boxy Hassy D package. Certainly a nice price and some improvement to ISO performance, but if one is looking at the S2 for the form factor, I don't see that the H4D-40 changes that equation much. More likely a reponse to Mamiya's aggresive "entry-level"pricing - sub-$10,000 with lens for 22 Mpixels.  Looks to be the same Kodak 6 micron sensor as the S2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted February 1, 2010 Share #14 Â Posted February 1, 2010 Looks to be the same Kodak 6 micron sensor as the S2 Â except bigger. and with excellent software support. still a disappointing announcement. another MF dinosaur, like the S2. last call, i hope. peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 2, 2010 Share #15  Posted February 2, 2010 Year, it's kind of the same (big) Hasselblad but with a smaller sensor and price.  Price is 15,269 £ incl. UK VAT.  Well, it's an answer to the S2. Whatever the question was.  Hasselblad H4D-40 DSLR - 339-995A - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackart Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share #16  Posted February 2, 2010 Year, it's kind of the same (big) Hasselblad but with a smaller sensor and price. Price is 15,269 £ incl. UK VAT.  Well, it's an answer to the S2. Whatever the question was.  Hasselblad H4D-40 DSLR - 339-995A -  I believe, that when Hasselblad told about "more integrated", shutterless cam in coming years , they didn't think H4D, but entirely new camera.  Jaak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 2, 2010 Share #17 Â Posted February 2, 2010 Just like Phase they needed to get away from the Kodak 31 mpx sensor since most likely that will be discounted at some point. Same with there 39 and Phase P45 sensors. Changing of the guard or more to the point new sensor tech in these 40 mpx sensors. Besides all that this gets Hassy down to 2 basic sensors 40,50 Kodak 60 Dalsa. For Phase pretty much Dalsa in P40 and P65. Although the 31mpx is still around as well as the 39 mpx sensors they are most likely letting stock run out. Also doing this brings costs down making use of one sensor basic style into 2 backs. P40 is a P65 cut down. Most likely this H40 is a cut down version of the H50. Now Hassy looks to have added micro lenses on the 40. Phase P40 does not have micro lenses . This also will affect use of tech cams and only the Phase will be able to work with them on the 40 mpx without color fringing. Still not sure on the Hassy 40 with tech cams but from past experience myself with micro lenses the answer is a no go especially with Kodak sensors. Dalsa sensors do not require micro lenses to gather light. Â Interesting how the Kodaks and Dalsa's and the technology behind them are made but that is a whole different thread and frankly way to geeky. LOL Â The bottom line is the S2 and Hassy 40 are kissing cousins. Both Kodak 6 micron and both use micro lenses and both basically have the same ISO range although Hassy has expanded that some 100 to 1600 . S2 160-1250 also a pull 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 2, 2010 Share #18  Posted February 2, 2010 In case anyone is interested  Digital Features:    Sensor size: 40.0 Mpixels (7304×5478 pixels)  Sensor dimensions: 33.1×44.2 mm  Image size: RAW 3FR capture 50 MB on average. TIFF 8 bit: 120 MB  File format: Lossless compressed Hasselblad RAW 3FR  Shooting mode: Single shot  Color definition: 16 bit  ISO speed range: ISO 100, 200, 400, 800 and 1600  Storage options: CF card type U-DMA (e.g. SanDisk extreme IV) or tethered to Mac or PC  Color management: Hasselblad Natural Color Solution  Storage capacity: 4 GB CF card holds 75 images on average  Capture rate: 1.1 seconds per capture. 33 captures per minute  Color display: Yes, 3 inch TFT type, 24 bit color, 230 400 pixels  Histogram feedback: Yes  IR filter: Mounted on CCD sensor  Acoustic feedback: Yes  Software: Phocus for Mac and Windows  Platform support: Macintosh: OSX. Windows: XP (32 and 64 bit), Vista (32 and 64 bit), Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit).  Host connection type: FireWire 800 (IEEE 1394b)  View camera compatibility: Yes, Mechanical shutters controlled via flash sync. Electronic shutters can be controlled from Phocus.  Operating temperature: 0 - 45 °C / 32 - 113 °F  Dimensions: Complete camera w. HC80 mm lens: 153 x 131 x 213 mm [W x H x D]  Weight: 2290 g (Complete camera w. HC80 mm lens, Li-Ion battery and CF card)    Camera Features:    Camera type: Large sensor medium format DSLR  Lenses: Hasselblad HC/HCD lens line with integral central lens shutter.  Shutter speed range: 256 seconds to 1/800 second  Flash sync speed: Flash can be used at all shutter speeds.  Viewfinder options:  •HVD 90x: 90° eye-level viewfinder w. diopter adjustment (-5 to +3.5D). Image magnification 3.1 times. Integral fill-flash (G.No. 12 @ ISO100). Hot shoe for SCA3002-system flashes from Metz™.  •HV 90x: 90° eye-level viewfinder w. diopter adjustment (-4 to +2.5D). Image magnification 2.7 times. Integral fill-flash (G.No. 12 @ ISO100). Hot shoe for SCA3002-system flashes from Metz™.  •HVM: Waist-level viewfinder. Image magnification 3.2 times.  Focusing: Autofocus metering with passive central cross-type sensor. Ultra focus digital feedback. Instant manual focus override. Metering range EV 1 to 19 at ISO 100.  Flash control: Automatic TTL centre weighted system. Uses built-in flash or flashes compatible with SCA3002 (Metz™). Output can be adjusted from -3 to +3EV. For manual flashes a built-in metering system is available.  Exposure metering: Metering options: Spot, Centre Weighted and CentreSpot. Metering range Spot: EV2 to 21, Centre Weighted: EV1 to 21, CentreSpot: EV1 to 21  Power supply: Rechargeable Li-ion battery (7.2 VDC / 1850 mAh).  Film compatibility: No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_thomsen Posted February 2, 2010 Share #19 Â Posted February 2, 2010 i guess the biggest problem for the S2 is that the new hassy got the support from calumet. cheers andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay101 Posted February 5, 2010 Share #20  Posted February 5, 2010 In case anyone is interested  ...Shutter speed range: 256 seconds to 1/800 second...   I'm curious as to why "only" 1/800 as fastest shutter speed in Hassy's? Is this because they're primarily designed for studio work? The S2's 1/4000 seems to offer more options. Ditto PhaseOne/Mamiya 645DF offering 1/4000 too. Is this to do with shutter / lens design? If so, just seems odd that Hasselblad's fastest shutter speed is 1/800th.  I know very little about MF though, so any info appreciated!  Thanks, Jay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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