andreas_thomsen Posted December 30, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) i am going to cuba soon. today my girlfriend told me that she don't want me to 'shoot' the poor people with such an expensive toy. waaaah. she told me ' for that kind of money a poor family could survive for months. true? what to do? buy an digilux4? cheers andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jklotz Posted December 30, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 30, 2009 if my girlfriend told me it was her or the Leica, I'd really miss her..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted December 30, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 30, 2009 The way I see it, by using the best equipment to take there photo's, I am giving them greater respect. If I were to use a P&S, or my cell phone camera, I am saying they are not important enough to warrant, such quality. Perhaps it's time for a new girlfriend... Just my two cents... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted December 30, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 30, 2009 Take her to her wardrobe and ask her if she wanna go naked or really face the poor people with her fancy clothes. Regards Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlep Posted December 30, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 30, 2009 Take her to her wardrobe and ask her if she wanna go naked or really face the poor people with her fancy clothes. Regards Steve LOL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted December 30, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 30, 2009 i am going to cuba soon. today my girlfriend told me that she don't want me to 'shoot' the poor people with such an expensive toy. waaaah.she told me ' for that kind of money a poor family could survive for months. Find another girlfriend. With the cost of you trip to Cuba, you can probably feed a lot of people too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted December 30, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Take her to her wardrobe and ask her if she wanna go naked or really face the poor people with her fancy clothes. Regards Steve Couldn't agree more! :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_thomsen Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted December 30, 2009 ty. problem is solved from my piont of view. the argument with the travel costs is great !!! as we are going by lufthansa first class!!!! i havent thought about that. cheers from happy andy (p.s. to admin can u please close this thread.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagia Posted December 30, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 30, 2009 Not going to judge your girlfriend, and she is almost right -- a poor Cuban family could survive years not months with this money (consider free medicine and education in Cuba). I travelled there a couple of years ago and would definitely recommend you to take the M9. Absolutely. You will get very good image opportunities, therefore take the best tools you have. Beware of theft, but it is so in every country. But I want to say something about the attitude. Maybe it is not your girlfriend's, maybe (sorry) it is induced by you (or broader by us, the M9 owners)? I mean the tendency to see the M9 as an expensive toy, not as a good working tool. Too often, in my opinion, people consider M9 to be a piece of luxury, which needs special admiration, good crocodile skin, colour matching (outside, not in the firmware), ageing of paint etc etc. M9 is a fantastic photo camera, and let it serve its purpose. Good luck in Cuba, it is a wonderful country, great people! Greetings to them! Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted December 30, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 30, 2009 sounds like you have a very good girlfriend..treat her well. oh and enjoy your First Class flight to Cuba. andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted December 30, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 30, 2009 I wouldn't shoot poor people. But sometimes... happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James R Posted December 30, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 30, 2009 Leave her home and donate the saved money to a Cuban charity. Seriously, going to Cuba puts badly needed money into their economy. A P&S is a luxury to a poor person in any country. Use the Leica and enjoy. Your girlfriend in just having guilt feeling because she is wealthy (comparably). Being poor doesn't make being poor any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_thomsen Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted December 30, 2009 finally we found a solution. the argument with the flight was not that efficient as it is a miles&more ticket. but we are going to donate some money - doesn't change the world but maybe it helps. cheers andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted December 30, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 30, 2009 My girlfriend knows better than even uttering such a concept... there ARE single woman in Cuba, make life easy and donate the ticket to a good cause. But really as everybody says, the Leica is a tool for a particular type of photography, use it. otherwise you could not use a Bosh powertool to build houses for homeless in Africa. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsiva Posted December 30, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 30, 2009 Perhaps you can shoot only in JPG or use third party lenses... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted December 30, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 30, 2009 Take me instead! I promise not to complain at all about you using an M9, and I'll even clean the dust from your camera & lenses. Seriously though, as others have suggested, give the people that you photograph a print afterwards. I take a little Canon printer with me when away from home, and often give people prints within minutes of making the photograph. They don't cost much, and are worth their weight in gold for the goodwill that they can provide. (And you can make your own postcards too.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted December 30, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 30, 2009 finally we found a solution.the argument with the flight was not that efficient as it is a miles&more ticket. but we are going to donate some money - doesn't change the world but maybe it helps. cheers andy Andreas, as a young guy I photographed normal and sometimes poor people in the big cities of Europe. There was a lot of respect for them in my behavior even when close to their faces. The most of them now live only in the pics I have from their faces..... Please do yourself and your girlfriend a favour and note as much adresses as you can get from people in Cuba. Start conversation and now do what I couldn't in the seventies: Send them prints as a small Thank You when you are back home. It's not soo easy but you give something back which has more value in Cuba than here in Europe. Enjoy your trip! Happy 2010 Bernd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted December 30, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 30, 2009 How better can your respect the Cubans than by taking their pix with a fine instrument? How can anyone complain. If you made lousy pix, that would be disrespecting them as well as wasting their time and yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminw Posted December 30, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 30, 2009 These people might be poor, but most of them are happy and love to be photographed ... I had a girl following me around a market for some time until I took a picture of her. They don't have much in cuba but they are proud of who they are ... show some respect when you take pictures and be kind and friendly ... If your girlfriend can't cope with that she should not go to a place like that ... it'll show that she is not confident and therefore those people wont warm up to her... As I said it's how you shout into the forrest , it'll come back the same way .. I was invitet into peoples home with my at the time still Leica M8 and there was no bad feeling at all . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted December 30, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 30, 2009 How better can your respect the Cubans than by taking their pix with a fine instrument? How can anyone complain. Bill with all respect are you serious? Taking pix of the (insert nationality here, e.g Brits-Americans-Chinese etc.) with an M9 shows respect? Wow..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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