johntobias Posted December 23, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 23, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Having upgraded to a summicron 28 asph from voigt ultron, I'm blown away by the image quality, it is amazing and significantly better than my summarit 50, so next upgrade I think will be the summarit...was thinking along the lines of a used summilux 50....(could do with the extra stop over f2) but a late summicron 50 is also in the frame! (no pun intended) ideally want a chrome one as I love my 'Panda' Look M8 lol! what are your thoughts folks?...I did have a Nokton f1.1 but sold it as I'm sticking to all leica glass...I just like the way the german stuff draws scenes!.....what about a screw mount last type non asph 'lux....they seem to be only a wee bit more expensive than similar 'crons and I suppose it wouldn't be that difficult to code a LTM-LM adapter......(could also use it on my tatty IIIa) Merry Chrismas to all you folk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luigi bertolotti Posted December 23, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 23, 2009 If you are really not so satisfied about your Summarit 2,5, which is anyway a modern and good lens... I think your only right choice could be for the Summilux asph 50:everyone agrees is the best 50, and you gain a significant top aperture:btw, I think a Summicron, apart f2, isn't so different from a Summarit in image rendering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted December 23, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 23, 2009 You will be extremely lucky to find a new or good secondhand coded 50mm Summilux. Don't dismiss the Summicron; it is an extremely fine range of lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 23, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 23, 2009 The current 50mm Summicron is long overdue for an update. There should be an ASPH version by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted December 23, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 23, 2009 The current 50mm Summicron is long overdue for an update. There should be an ASPH version by now. ...and that makes it a bad lens how...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted December 23, 2009 what about the last of the pre-asph 'lux ? any experiences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted December 23, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 23, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi. what about the last of the pre-asph 'lux ? any experiences?One day, You'll upgrade to the Asph anyway. Take the best right away, no question about the Lux50A... see what Erwin Puts say about it. I can't say it better. You may find one second hand for less than 2k€ ($2900 - £1800) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted December 23, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 23, 2009 I used the lasts pre-asph 50 'lux for several years and found it very satisfactory. The reason I upgraded to the asph version was based on my experience with the 35 'lux. In the case of the 35, the difference is gigantic. No so much on the 50. Go ahead and get the 50 'lux. If you decide to upgrade you'll get what you paid for this lens when you sell it. You can't get hurt. While you are in the decision mode, buy a subscription to Reid Reviews. Sean has reviewed *every* lens available for the M cameras. You will be able to see actual images side by side to help you compare lenses. Don't leave home for the camera store without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 23, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 23, 2009 what about the last of the pre-asph 'lux ? any experiences? Well... let'say it could stand WITH your Summarit... which is surely sharper at 4-5,6..."normal" apertures... at wide apertures, you should have an "old style" lens... forgetting about the fine "sharp subject+bokeh" you could obtain with the asph... a style of taking that can be appreciated... I have an "old" Summilux 50... but I do not like so much this focal onto M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted December 23, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 23, 2009 it's not clear what you don't like about the Summarit. I used the 50/1.4 asph as basically my only lens for a year, and the same with the 50/1.4 pre asph, last version. Wide open or thereabouts, the asph is a little sharper at middle distances, which can carry some pictures. For portraits closer in I like the look of the pre asph better. Both lenses are very easy to focus. The asph has more contrast than I like, and star-shaped highlights from f/2 -f/2.8 like some other lenses. They are both wonderful lenses. If you go for a lens + adapter, that is one more variable that can affect focus calibration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knomad Posted December 24, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 24, 2009 what about the last of the pre-asph 'lux ? any experiences? The pre-aspherical 'lux is my favorite lens on a film M body, it does magical things. On the M8 I prefer the 'cron, though. It's not a big difference, rather it's a subtle and intangible thing, and to a large extent it's personal preference. I have not yet tried the aspherical 'lux, although if you're looking for the ultimate in crisp resolution and microcontrast it's obviously as good as it gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misha Posted December 24, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 24, 2009 what about the last of the pre-asph 'lux ? any experiences? great portrait (on m8) lens. i am actually selling mine (not coded). PM if interested. misha PHOTOGRAPHY BY MISHA FRIEDMAN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted December 26, 2009 prob solved, lux asph....too expensive ( I use my 28 most of the time, perhaps 60%, 50 gets about 30% and 90 about 10%) so then either keep 'rit or pre-asph lux or cron got chance to test all together, pre-asph lux, nice but preferred the images from the 'cron which were significantly nicer than the 'rit which was good but a bit sterile compared to the 'cron so then, a summicron it is......Just bought a nice silver one so my 'panda' M8 look is preserved....Black M8 and 28, 50 and 90 summicrons all silver!...happy with my wee kit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted December 27, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 27, 2009 any of you has experience with any of the following lenses ? Leica 50mm f1.5 Summarit 1956 Leica 50mm f2 Summicron rigid from around 1964 Summicron-M, "Third Version" Wich one of these, or wich affordabla (under 400 euro) 50 mm lens would fit best in a M8 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiukuic5609 Posted December 27, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 27, 2009 Summicron 50mm V. III is IMO the best IQ/Price of Leica lenses. The f/2 max aperture is often fine for most situations on the M8 with ISO 640. If you shoot in B&W you can go up to ISO 1250 and get hand-hodable shutter speeds in dim indoor-shooting situations. The 1.3 crop is nice on the M8 to make a compact fast short-tele lens. --------------------------- Leica M8 50mm Summicron Review for M8 http://danielvalentephotography.com/2009/11/the-leica-summicron-50mm-version-iii-rigid-review-for-the-m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted December 27, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 27, 2009 im making a mess here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted December 27, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 27, 2009 Summicron 50mm V. III is IMO the best IQ/Price of Leica lenses. The f/2 max aperture is often fine for most situations on the M8 with ISO 640. If you shoot in B&W you can go up to ISO 1250 and get hand-hodable shutter speeds in dim indoor-shooting situations. The 1.3 crop is nice on the M8 to make a compact fast short-tele lens. --------------------------- Leica M8 50mm Summicron Review for M8 The Leica Summicron 50mm Version III Rigid Review for the M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted December 27, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 27, 2009 I read you article I have the option of going for a rigid or for a 3 version for around 400 euro I too have a 28 mm and also think that a 50 mm its is ideal companion Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 27, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 27, 2009 If you are not satified with the image quality from your 50 summarit then the only real choice it the 50 Lux ASPH. The 50 Cron is basically the same lens as the 50 Rit with a 1/4-1/2 stop more speed. The Lux ASPH is a brand new lens and no other lens made by any maker, including Leica, comes close. That doesn't mean the 50 Cron or Rit are bad lenses, they aren't. They are just not in the same league as the Lux ASPH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted December 30, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 30, 2009 Summicron 50mm V. III is IMO the best IQ/Price of Leica lenses. The f/2 max aperture is often fine for most situations on the M8 with ISO 640. If you shoot in B&W you can go up to ISO 1250 and get hand-hodable shutter speeds in dim indoor-shooting situations. The 1.3 crop is nice on the M8 to make a compact fast short-tele lens. --------------------------- Leica M8 50mm Summicron Review for M8 The Leica Summicron 50mm Version III Rigid Review for the M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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