RSL Posted December 6, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 6, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Anybody see Joe Farace's review of the Olympus E-P1 in the January "Shutterbug?" He says, and I quote: "...based on my testing of a new M8.2 and some expensive Leitz lenses, the image quality of the Olympus E-P1 meets or exceeds those made with the Leica." Oh... Wow! Anyone want to dispute that claim? Could the same thing be said about the M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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arthury Posted December 6, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 6, 2009 Anybody see Joe Farace's review of the Olympus E-P1 in the January "Shutterbug?" He says, and I quote: "...based on my testing of a new M8.2 and some expensive Leitz lenses, the image quality of the Olympus E-P1 meets or exceeds those made with the Leica." Oh... Wow! Anyone want to dispute that claim? Could the same thing be said about the M9? Slapping in a link will ease the "work" needed to locate the article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSL Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted December 6, 2009 Arthur, If I had one I'd have included it. At the moment you need the actual magazine -- the kind you can pick up and hold. I've looked for the article on line but haven't been able to find it. It'll probably be out there before long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnitak Posted December 6, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 6, 2009 Anybody see Joe Farace's review of the Olympus E-P1 in the January "Shutterbug?" He says, and I quote: "...based on my testing of a new M8.2 and some expensive Leitz lenses, the image quality of the Olympus E-P1 meets or exceeds those made with the Leica." Oh... Wow! Anyone want to dispute that claim? Could the same thing be said about the M9? Yeah, I'll dispute that. I have both, and IMO, he's totally wrong. In fact, I bought the M8.2 to overcome many of the shortcomings of the E-P1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted December 6, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 6, 2009 Anybody see Joe Farace's review of the Olympus E-P1 in the January "Shutterbug?" He says, and I quote: "...based on my testing of a new M8.2 and some expensive Leitz lenses, the image quality of the Olympus E-P1 meets or exceeds those made with the Leica." Oh... Wow! Anyone want to dispute that claim? Could the same thing be said about the M9? for family pictures he may be right. peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted December 6, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 6, 2009 Can't dispute the claim, since I only have M8 and EP1. My M8's IQ beats the EP1 any day, irrespective of the M-lens mounted . Yet, I can not speak for the M 8.2;);) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted December 6, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 6, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) He could be right. the M8.2 have the worst video of the two. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andywww Posted December 6, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 6, 2009 Most likely some marketing act from Olympus, or this guy has no idea. Anyway, one should not have directly compared these two types of cameras in the first place. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
proenca Posted December 6, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 6, 2009 He could be right. the M8.2 have the worst video of the two. . Lets not start with that Bo... because I will have to start to rant about the very poor M8.2 live view.... terrible ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolov Posted December 6, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 6, 2009 I really love my M8, bought november 2006 and followed by 16 Leica Zeiss and CV lenses but... in the past week I searched the web for every possible info on the micro 4/3 system and particularly the Panasonic GF1 with the 20 1,7 ASPH (899 usd) I examined hundreds of sample images,read a lot of reviews including DPR, SteveM7, and many others. I am arriving at at least unaspected conclusions. This image could be a good starting point :Sample Images | LUMIX G MICRO SYSTEM | LUMIX | Digital Camera | Panasonic Global Best regards. Sergio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted December 6, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 6, 2009 Sergio, I can only agree with you, these cameras have some very lovely image quality. I have a G1 and am plainly blown away by the image quality. but do me a favor and stick not a 45mm but a 24mm on and repeat the test. (or something meaningful shorter) . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolov Posted December 6, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 6, 2009 Bo, I don't have the GF1, my experience is limited to what I found on the web. E.G. I found this thread on the Panasonic 7-14 lens very interesting. G1 with 7-14mm - show yours !!!!! - The GetDPI Photography Forums I also compared side by side test numbers and test images from DPreview in depth analisys of both the M8 and the GF1 - noise, DR, resolution, RAW conversions etc. The results seems to be not so different, and I perfectly know how good images i get from the M8. Seems that there is a lot of technology in a very small camera, very similar in many aspects and for possible usage to our beloved rangefinder. Best regards. Sergio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcoder Posted December 7, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 7, 2009 Anybody see Joe Farace's review of the Olympus E-P1 in the January "Shutterbug?" He says, and I quote: "...based on my testing of a new M8.2 and some expensive Leitz lenses, the image quality of the Olympus E-P1 meets or exceeds those made with the Leica." How interesting. I will have to find the magazine to see his review. I had purchased an E-P1 in the hopes of having a smaller SLR. And it was the poor Olympus glass and the silly features of the E-P1 that lead me to want a simpler camera that focuses on photography and that has great glass. I am really glad I got an E-P1. I don't think I would have ever taken as hard of a look for something better had I not. And I don't think I would have taken a second look at Leica M cameras had I not had an E-P1. Sometime this next year I will have an M9 and will be glad to sell my E-P1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklotz Posted December 7, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 7, 2009 There is no question the G1 can make some technically wonderful pictures. I know, I've got one. But to me, it's a bit like comparing a Nissan to a Ferrari. The Nisan will probably spec out as good, or at least very close, but the driving experience is a different story. If your goal is to produce great pictures at the cheapest price, you are in the wrong forum. That's not what Leica does. I will say, however, the 2 cameras have a completely different look, to my eyes anyway. On an MTF chart, how would they compare? Who cares? I find the Leica to help me to achieve my artistic vision in a way the Panasonic simply can't. How does one put a value on that? I don't know, but as my mother once told me "there are things in life, that, if they have to be explained, your simply talking to the wrong person"..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted December 7, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 7, 2009 This image could be a good starting point :Sample Images | LUMIX G MICRO SYSTEM | LUMIX | Digital Camera | Panasonic Global I don't trust pictures from a company website... Leica included. To me, you learn more about a camera by looking at Flickr... not a photo made by a pro in perfect conditions. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsnyc Posted December 7, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 7, 2009 I am really glad I got an E-P1. I don't think I would have ever taken as hard of a look for something better had I not. And I don't think I would have taken a second look at Leica M cameras had I not had an E-P1. I agree with barcoder. I initially bought an E-P1 so that I could use my M lenses on it--sort of a "poor man's M9." But I just never felt comfortable framing and focusing my shots using the LCD, and it was of course nothing like the feel of my MP. So I decided to put my name on a waiting list for a M9. In fact, I sold the E-P1 today--figured it was better to sell it now rather than after the E-P2's start hitting the used market. I did, however, keep my micro 4/3 adapter for M lenses, just in case the technology matures into a more interesting camera someday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted December 7, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 7, 2009 jklotz, Misunderstand me right here. I have a G1 and had no intentions of starting a E-P1 vs, M8 vs M X vs whatever... The G1 is a lovely camera, but there is no way on earth the prints stack up side by side with by M8.2 let alone the M9 - when it come to nice smooth organic look of the images. I don't know which one resolves more and I don't care. (though Im pretty sure the M9 beats the E-P1) . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 7, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 7, 2009 I've got a G1 and an EP-1, and an M9, and while I don't tend to pixel peep its not impossible to show the images side by side (up to a certain size). They sit together OK, and I don't feel that I have to explain that one image or other is made with an inferior camera. A good photo is a good photo, and both the M9 and m4/3 used in their comfort zones produce good enough photo's. Of course outside their comfort zones the inferior camera could be the M9 if I desperately needed AF and could only guess the focus in order to get at best a soft image, or the EP-1 could be the inferior camera if I wanted to show at its best a luxurious transition of tone and colour. But I find the two camera systems blend extremely well and in a way that would be churlish to criticise given nothing like it was even possible 30 months ago. So lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater, if you need a great camera that will take Leica lenses, has its own range of very good lenses, can give you the facility for very good video (GH-1), and have all the mod cons, yet will not take up a vast amount of space in your bag alongside an M setup, then there is something available in m4/3 for everybody. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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