Leitzmac Posted December 2, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hope I am posting this in the correct area. This weekend the WestLicht Photographica Auction auction will be held in Vienna, Austria. There will be all sorts of interesting Leica items auctioned alongside (for the first time) some fascinating photographs - many of them historically important and no doubt one or two taken using Leica equipment. A friend of mine who is a very gifted documentary photographer and I are going along and I wondered if anyone else from the forum was planning to attend? It promises to be quite an event and I am very much looking forward to seeing some of the items listed. I'm hoping to do a spot of photography around the city whilst I'm there and would be delighted to have company if anyone is interested? I look forward to hearing from you. Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Leitzmac, Take a look here WestLicht Photographica Auction. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted December 2, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 2, 2009 Westlicht auctions are always very interesting, and the adding of photos has been a smart move to enhance their visibility. I was there only once, years ago, and not during an auction... a nice environment. I usually retain a copy of the catalog and results of the bid, for it's a very significant probe on the collectibles' market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 2, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 2, 2009 They even show a IIId in their last catalogue. That's the first time I have seen a photo of an example outside the classical books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 2, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 2, 2009 They even show a IIId in their last catalogue. That's the first time I have seen a photo of an example outside the classical books. They have some, from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bixi Posted December 2, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 2, 2009 Westlicht is a superb Gallery. I used to live in Vienna and I would love to be there. But now I'm living too far away. Here is the link for the M cameras which will be auctioned. WestLicht Photographica Auction Best, Bixi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnakChan Posted December 8, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 8, 2009 The results of t he auction is out. The M9 black prototype (with the M8 logo) ended up at EUR15,000, whilst the grey went for EUR2,000. The Leica MS went for a whopping EUR80,000. However looks like there was the odd bargain...the M6J went for EUR3,000 when a shop in Ginza, Tokyo had it for an equiv of EUR4,232. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 8, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mixed and someway strange results... I'd say it has been an auction with low attendance and some very focused buyers ... some items unsold, some went for very low prices : from a quick review, I noticed a black Elmar 65 WITH VisoIII complete - 400 Euros, some SL - SL2 bodies very cheap, a nice M4 at 420 Euro, a rare SOOZI at 550... even a pair of IIId, which is one of the rarest SM Leicas, went for decent prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted December 8, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 8, 2009 ... whilst the grey went for EUR2,000. Now, THAT was a bargain M9 buy. Unfortunately it wasn't me. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted December 8, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 8, 2009 Now, THAT was a bargain M9 buy. Unfortunately it wasn't me. Andy Bet he's missed a '0' off... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted December 8, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 8, 2009 Bet he's missed a '0' off... was actually 12,000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leitzmac Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted December 8, 2009 Westlicht is a superb Gallery. I used to live in Vienna and I would love to be there. But now I'm living too far away. Here is the link for the M cameras which will be auctioned. WestLicht Photographica Auction Best, Bixi It is indeed, they've held some fantastic exhibitions there and the selection of Leica equipment on permanent display is quite astonishing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 8, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 8, 2009 Mixed and someway strange results... I'd say it has been an auction with low attendance and some very focused buyers ... some items unsold, some went for very low prices : from a quick review, I noticed a black Elmar 65 WITH VisoIII complete - 400 Euros, some SL - SL2 bodies very cheap, a nice M4 at 420 Euro, a rare SOOZI at 550... even a pair of IIId, which is one of the rarest SM Leicas, went for decent prices. This was my impression as well seeing the results. Though it always baffles me - and sometimes makes me sad - when I see the enormous prices some items achieved which have nothing else than some militaria connotation. They also had photos for auction, most of them went for the starting price or a little bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leitzmac Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted December 8, 2009 Mixed and someway strange results... I'd say it has been an auction with low attendance and some very focused buyers Attendance was fairly good and you are quite correct there was A very focused buyer who bought half the auction on behalf of a Taiwanese billionaire. As soon as you saw his card go up you knew whoever was bidding against him didn't stand a chance - it was quite ruthless! Having said that, there was an exception - he let one lot go and the reason for that was the other bidder was none other than Dr. Kaufmann! I spoke to the voracious bidder after the auction and he revealed a rather staggering secret that I can't divulge here, but don't worry, if what he said is true we shall all know about it within a couple of weeks. Incidentally it was the prices attained by some of the viewfinders that I found most astonishing (one went for 3400 Euro and that's before buyer's premium), see: WestLicht Photographica Auction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 8, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 8, 2009 ....Incidentally it was the prices attained by some of the viewfinders that I found most astonishing (one went for 3400 Euro and that's before buyer's premium), see: WestLicht Photographica Auction Gosh... didn't notice... SBLOO in black is undoubtly rare... impressive it was paid almost like the Telyt 800.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted December 8, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 8, 2009 I spoke to the voracious bidder after the auction and he revealed a rather staggering secret that I can't divulge here, but don't worry, if what he said is true we shall all know about it within a couple of weeks. A Taiwanese manufacturer is going to present an M10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted December 8, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 8, 2009 A Taiwanese manufacturer is going to present an M10? Or gonna take over the whole Leitz plant... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted December 8, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 8, 2009 Well ,if you like expansive finder,look Lot 53... Euro5.000 +20/25% fees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted December 8, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 8, 2009 Or gonna take over the whole Leitz plant...Yes, you're right! ... Jokes aside, that would make sense! An invisible Mr. X from Taiwan with enough buying power to get anything Leica, whether old or new... and his courtesy to Dr. Kaufmann! Veeery strange.....! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted December 8, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 8, 2009 A classic example of what conditions mean. Lot117,Lot 118 both Berg Elmar 10,5cm.the ,first near mint A/B boxed with finder,etc. Euro 3.400+20-25% fees , the second in good conditions B+ Euro 550 + fees. Same thing happened with Lot 105-106-107 9cm. Fat Elmar Logaritmic progression Price/Conditions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 8, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 8, 2009 Gosh... didn't notice... SBLOO in black is undoubtly rare... impressive it was paid almost like the Telyt 800.... What about this last one ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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