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Dear photographers,

 

I would like to share my hands-on experience with especially the Leica MP here in Greenland.

 

What is important to me, is to have a tool that I can rely on in this climate. I don't want a camera that quits in the middle of the action so I were excited to find out how my M-equipment would function here in the arctic.

 

First, It turned out that my newly-bought M8 is worthless in this climate. All the batteries die after 5 min. of use on a normal sunny day, and so the camera sits in my bag for the rest of the day. I did not dare to bring it out in the pouring rain or in a snowstorm, because it is full of electronics, but I guess the result would be the same: the batteries die or something even worse happens.

 

So I put the M8 in the closet and it has been there for almost 5 months. After the first disapointing M8 experiences, I took my MP out for 3 hours in the non-stop pouring summer rain, hanging around my neck unprotected against the water. The camera and lens were soaked but everything was fine. No damage at all.

 

Sometime later, I brought the MP out on a sunny day with just below 0 degree celcius. Piece of cake. No damage.

 

Later, I took it for a walk in the snow and accidently banged it against the rocky ground lying under the snow because I slipped. My heart stopped for 3 seconds but no damage or errors occured to the camera. The lens was fine too.

 

In a heavy snowstorm the drops hitting the camera turned to ice and stuck like rock hard glue all over the camera and lens surface. The internal sun hood on my 50 summilux 1.4 asph froze so I could not move it. I had to use my warm breath on the lens and viewfinder glass to make them clear and then everything was fine. No problems. Film advance was fine.

 

Today, I walk around in what felt as -15 celcius and my lips broke. The camera and lens were covered in ice drops but focussing was still fine, except it was hard to see through the viewfinder. When I got back inside the warm house, the camera was full of water drops inside out, but I let it air dry next to a partly opened window. 10 minuttes and it was as new again ready to use. Amazing.

 

It is winter now, and I am looking forward to see how it works in the upcoming months as it gets colder and colder. But I expect no problems. Leica in Solms told me that I might have to get the grease and oil replaced with something different, but I also heard from other people in the arctic, that it is waste of money. I will see how it turns out.

 

All in all, I am really excited about this camera and I would like to recommend it to anyone who wants a reliable tool. If you already own one, don't be afraid to put it to it's limits. The pictures get better that way :D

 

 

(P.S. The equipment that I used together with the MP are: Summicron 28 Asph - Summilux 50 1.4 Asph - Summarit 35 2.5 - and the old M6 Classic.)

 

Comments or questions are welcome.

 

Can we see some pictures of your tried and tested camera and lens in treacherous weather? A picture is worth a thousand words......:)

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Can we see some pictures of your tried and tested camera and lens in treacherous weather? A picture is worth a thousand words......:)

 

If it makes you happy... Here you go.

 

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Just across the strait here in Nunavut conditions are much the same. My M4-P holds up well. A usefull addition has been an Abrahamsson Rapid Winder (similar to a Leicavit) which allows film winding on and shutter cocking even while wearing sealskin pualuiit.

Taima,

R. Morrison

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I posted this pic on the landscape forum already but might as well post here, too. Routeburn Track, Fiordland, New Zealand, M6, 35ASPH, E100. Snow was alternating with freezing rain, and it was very windy and very cold. A chopper had just taken us over the saddle to avoid avalanche danger. I was wearing full wet weather gear and warm gloves. I focused and set the exposure more by guesswork very quickly. Then I handed the M6 to my wife who took a quick shot of me... before we wisely ventured onward.

 

Despite being in a protective pouch, I was scared the Leica would still get wet, but it was just fine. I think RF is well suited to wild weather -- AF could have focussed on the raindrops and snowflakes instead.

 

The coldest I experienced, though, was after staying in a hut cross country skiing. Minus 20C. When we got back to the car, we found shampoo, eggs, and cans of beer all frozen solid!

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Older M`s required lub removal. Current stuff is much better.

 

LCD and batteries are useless and perhapes damaged by cold.

 

Film can break and get static marks. Keep inside a coat if you can.

 

 

When in Canada in the 60s the shop I worked at supplied modified Ms for use out in Canadian weather recording log take outs at forestry sites photographing the side view of each truck as it left. The lubrication was removed and I think Leica quoted 1000 shots before shutter overhaul. The camera bodies were in a housing, with a slot cut in each end so that bulk film could be used from fabricated chambers using a 'home made' winder motor, they would be collectors items now wouldn't they!

There were also two automatically switched Mecablitz units built in so that use could continue into darkness.

We also tried a Contarex and, like a Pentax I tried personally, it didn't work for long at -20 F with lubricants retained

 

Gerry

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(...) A usefull addition has been an Abrahamsson Rapid Winder (similar to a Leicavit) (...)

 

That is good to know. I have been thinking of getting a Leicavit too. I also miss the angled film rewind crank on my MP. At the moment I find it hard to rewind to film with gloves on. But I don't know if that would change anything. I prefer not to take my gloves off :)

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Interesting thread. Marcus - could you post a photograph of your lens hood modifications? Sounds like a good idea but not sure exactly what you ended up doing? Thanks much. Best. Coos

 

Thank Coos. Hope the email was helpful.

 

For everybody else:

 

My particular adaptation only really works with the 35mm Summicron asph - You'll need an original lens hood, along with the original rubber cap that fits over the hood (not a lens cap).

 

I glued and taped the rubber cap permanently onto the the lens hood after cutting out a rectangle in the cap to tightly match the frame (I originally cut out bits of cardboard to figure out the exact shape).

 

Adapting the lens hood in this way really made a difference with regards to shooting into the light, and protecting the lens from all sorts of abuse. As the lens hood is plastic, and the cap is made of rubber, it also acts as an impact absorber. If you want to clean the lens, just take the lens hood off. And of course you can always put a lens cap directly onto the lens when the hood is not in place.

 

In 2008, Leica bought out the 28mm elmarit asph with exactly the same lens hood as the 35 summicron asph (proving the original hood for the 35 is too big). If you do have the 28, you could try the same trick with the lens hood for use on the M8, although it will probably be too tight for use on a full frame M.

 

Another useful lens hood (if you can get it) is the metal screw-in hood for the 50mm elmarit collapsable. This also fits the 35mm summicron asph, the 28 elmarit asph, and the 50mm summicron. Small neat and tidy, particularly on the 35 when the conditions aren't too tough. When used on the 28, I don't get any obvious vignetting, although I probably would if a filter was also used.

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This might be my first posting here!

 

This is really, really good news. I brought an Epson RD1 and Nikon D200 on the Europa to Antarctica in 06/07. I never got around to shooting rangefinder much, but I have to tell you I was so disappointed with the D200 I was almost in tears a few times. Once, walking in Port Lockroy, the 18-200 lens fell apart in my hands. Literally. This equipment was perhaps 8-9 months new. I was really flabbergasted.

 

I've now pretty much decided my M8 is a waste and will be on the block. I've been tossed between rebuying an M7 or an MP for the first time. Your MP story is really good news for me. Thank you for posting this.

 

David & Josh's Excellent Adventure: Sailing to Antarctica

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So, a little update about the MP here in Greenland:

 

Since my last post, there are still no problems. But - My film broke one time in the M6, so I had to take it home and get it out in the darkroom.

 

The MP (black paint) is getting scratched quickly, so I don't know if the black paint goes off more easily when it's really cold. Anyway, I don't care about paint.

 

I will keep you up to date :)

 

 

Takuss

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Just what we need. A little more unfounded rose coloured optimism:D. Go Leica. No other camera can manage it:rolleyes:.

 

Which posts are you referring to? my original or the answers from people?

 

Looking forward to hear about your experiences.

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Referring to rob_x2004's statement.

 

I shot many. Never been shot with the MP.

 

The Netherlands; sandy dunes, moist woodlands, not only cats and dog but drizzle aswell. Not to mention the fine dust in the inner cities and the fungus attacks in the dashboard locker. Showers, showers make me laugh and not just me. A five violent user years surviver.

 

 

Must stop now, M has to go for a leak.............

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