Guest bwcolor Posted February 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the 28mm f2 Summicron. It is a very nice lens to use on an M7 or M8, but the big boxy lens hood or lens shade is sort of klunky and obscures the lower right corner of the viewfinder to an unpleasant extent. So I am going to begin using it without the hood, but with a UV filer to provide physical protection. My question is: How much will the performance of the lens be affected by not having the hood in place? I know the theories about flare, but in practice how much of a problem do the members think there will be in end results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted February 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted February 27, 2009 A filter will hardly protect your lens in case of bump or drop so, to me, the only alternative is hood or hood + filter. Ever tried the 35/1.4 asph hood with your 28/2? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/77993-28mm-f2-summicron-lens-hood/?do=findComment&comment=822653'>More sharing options...
Guest bwcolor Posted February 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted February 27, 2009 lct: How does it work if you have tried it? Fit, with or without filter? Vignetting on either M7 or M8? Sounds like a possible solution, and thanks for your input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmSummicron Posted February 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted February 27, 2009 I've never used the lens hood on the 28 + M8. No complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted February 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 27, 2009 Hi, I do use the Lux35A hood on the Summicron 28 too Fit, with or without filter? Vignetting on either M7 or M8?It works with and without filter, because it's put over lens, the filter is screwed on.You you have to try on film, on M8 it doesn't vignette of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 27, 2009 Share #6 Posted February 27, 2009 lct: How does it work if you have tried it? Fit, with or without filter? Vignetting on either M7 or M8?... Ditto Philippe above. No experience with film sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freusen Posted February 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I use the 35mm Summilux lens hood on my M6, it's much smaller then the one, which is delivered, with the lens. It's very convenient, without any vignette. FrankR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted February 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 27, 2009 The 28 summicron has a 46mm filter thread. I like the old contax G gc1 hood or the heavystar 46mm wide hood ...both basically small round hoods. You can find them on ebay. The nice thing is that are realitively inexpensive(particularly the heavystar)..so I buy 2 at a time ..if I dent one its gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertwright Posted February 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted February 27, 2009 bump for the ebay hood. 46mm round vented. guess it was heavystar like the poster said. really doesn't get in the way. fyi, all the cron lenses with flat or nearly flat front lens surfaces can flare like a b---- at times. so going hoodless might not be a good idea. at least with digital you can see if the flare has ruined your shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted February 28, 2009 Share #10 Posted February 28, 2009 A filter will hardly protect your lens in case of bump or drop so, to me, the only alternative is hood or hood + filter. Ever tried the 35/1.4 asph hood with your 28/2? i'll second that, i've dispensed with the sturdy but boxy 28 f2 shade altogether (actually it fell to peices and eventually broke and the various bits got lost). i interchange the 35lux shade onto my 28chron and back all the time without any noticeable ill-effects plus one less shade saves space in my kit bag so i am happy:) john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonkirk Posted February 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted February 28, 2009 I too use the 35 Summilux shade on the 28, but I almost didn't buy it when I saw how much it still blocks. IMO it's not really a big deal - a little better, that's all. You may still want to shoot without a hood when you know the light causes no flare problem. Kirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. borger Posted February 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted February 28, 2009 I've never used the lens hood on the 28 + M8. No complaints. I 'll second that. Beside possible protection there is no need to use a hood with the 28 summicron. Mine is still new in the box. Never seen flare or otherwise bad performance because of not using a hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2009 Share #13 Posted February 28, 2009 ...Beside possible protection there is no need to use a hood with the 28 summicron.... Even with a filter on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted February 28, 2009 Share #14 Posted February 28, 2009 I've gotten flare once so far without using the hood (but was using a filter). Of course, that could be the filter's fault, or it could have happened regardless - it doesn't really bother me. I usually use it since I don't really find it that much of a pain. I also bought a screw on hood from ebay but have never really used it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 28, 2009 Share #15 Posted February 28, 2009 Problem of screw-in hoods is they can ruin the filter thread of the lens in case of drop or bump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bwcolor Posted February 28, 2009 Share #16 Posted February 28, 2009 There are some very informative articles under a Google search for "lens flare". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell c. greenberg Posted February 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted February 28, 2009 I've gotten flare once so far without using the hood (but was using a filter). Of course, that could be the filter's fault, or it could have happened regardless - it doesn't really bother me. I usually use it since I don't really find it that much of a pain. I also bought a screw on hood from ebay but have never really used it. Tgray, Keep in mind that when you put a filter over a lens, you are introducing 1 more element that light has to penetrate( not part of the optical formula). If you do this, I strongly recommend using the 35mm hood for flare suppression. Russell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted February 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted February 28, 2009 I have gotten a solid bump to the screw-in Heavystar hood, but since it was screwed into the UV/IR cut filter, no damage to lens thread. They're cheap to replace. I'm using the 46mm WA hood, which appears similar in size to the old Contax G hood for their 28mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted February 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted February 28, 2009 Problem of screw-in hoods is they can ruin the filter thread of the lens in case of drop or bump.The first problem (before any accident) with those screw hoods, if used to avoid the size of the original 28 Summicron hood, is that the overall length is bigger after all.So there is no advantage IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted February 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted February 28, 2009 Tgray, Keep in mind that when you put a filter over a lens, you are introducing 1 more element that light has to penetrate( not part of the optical formula). If you do this, I strongly recommend using the 35mm hood for flare suppression. Russell Oh I know, that's why I usually use the hood. I shot 1 roll with out the hood but with the filter to see how it performed. One frame got some flare, but nothing worse than what I've gotten with other lenses. I'm too cheap to use a $3k lens without a filter. Hahaha. I'd rather have a ruined frame or two than a damaged front element. Like I said, the hood is large, but it's not *that* large in the big picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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