caparobertsan Posted February 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yesterday, I was just playing with My M8 using ASA 1250-2500. It was not bad if it was exposed properly. I was surprised with result. BUT.... I was looking the files carefully I saw this line again!!! And dead pixel on the same line. So I contacted Leica they told me I need to send it Germany. ( I found out People IN Japan can take their M8 to service centre in Japan.) I am in Australia and agent deals with Germany only- So I will need to send my camera in. Really I do`nt use those iso speed but actually line and dead pixel is there even with asa160. Just hard to see. I can use my camera normally but knowing there is a line and dead pixel(s), make me not want to use my M8. Would you continue to use it or send in ASAP? WHile waiting for repair , I need one compact digicam- what would you recommend? I was looking at Ricoh Gx200(maybe GR-II). Thanks for looking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest malland Posted February 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted February 12, 2009 I would recommend the GRD2, my favorite small sensor camera, together with the 21mm amd 40mm EFOV convertor lenses, which are both excellent. If you click here you can see a portrait taken with this camera and the 40mm converter. I think that the GRD2 RAW files are substantially better than those of the GX200, as the latter require much more sharpening and contrast increase. As for the D-Lux-4, that is supposed to be a very good camera, but is has the same types of controls as the D-Lux-3, which I have used and found to be not as good in this respect as the GRD2/ —Mitch/Potomac, MD Bangkok Noir©: Book Project - a set on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonadam Posted February 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted February 12, 2009 Canon G10 is very good for the money. Looks very classic too. Also that dead pixel does not sound too bad. I used to have a very dirty lens on my Canon 20D. Only in some shots did the specs show up as obvious. I just quickly dabbed them away in PS. Of course if it's driving you mad then send it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 12, 2009 Share #4 Posted February 12, 2009 Get the G1 and you can use your Leica lenses if you get the adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted February 12, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 12, 2009 Yup.. the G1 is a interesting compliment to the M8... I just got the adapter... though its a bit of a trail-and-error to focus, shooting the 75lux wide open turns out to be pretty hard but the keepers are good. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted February 12, 2009 Share #6 Posted February 12, 2009 Get this: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/76604-bad-news-here-again/?do=findComment&comment=806523'>More sharing options...
andit Posted February 12, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi there, Sorry to hear about your M8. I know exactly how you feel. Unlike most of the members of the forum who live in the US or in Euroland and can have their Leica's serviced in a couple of days, you and I live in remote parts. When my M8 went to Solms for the vertical line problem, I ended up without a camera for 5 months... I tend to agree with the other posters who suggest the G1. Simply because you can mount you current M lenses, this becomes a really viable option as a backup body to the M8. I know that I'm very seriously looking at this (am still waiting a little longer to see what Olympus comes up with). The only other alternative would be to get a used M6/M7/MP and revert to film. While I love using film, it is just not an option anymore nowadays - firstly to get the proper film (Fuji RVP, Illford etc), developing and then scanning. In sympathy, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flkin Posted February 12, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 12, 2009 2 things about using the G1 with Leica M lenses: 1. The crop factor is 2X so it's pretty difficult to find wider focal lengths to use. Everything becomes telephoto. eg 50mm ---> 100mm. 15mm ---> 30mm. 2. The G1 has a DOF stop down viewer function!!! And since the viewfinder is electronic it will compensate for the lower light by increasing the brightness in the viewfinder. I don't own a G1 but from my understanding of this function, you can actually see the bokeh of the Noctilux "TTL" before you take the shot (as an example). Can a G1 owner confirm that this is true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted February 12, 2009 Share #9 Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. The picture above is with elmarit 21/2.8 effective 42mm on FF. Heliar 15mm is FF eqivalent to 30mm on G1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flkin Posted February 12, 2009 Share #10 Posted February 12, 2009 If you click here you can see a portrait taken with this camera and the 40mm converter. —Mitch/Potomac, MD That is so Bangkok! Did I guess right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flkin Posted February 12, 2009 Share #11 Posted February 12, 2009 Nugat, can you preview the pic through the G1 electronic viewfinder and see the bokeh of the M lenses in full brightness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latecomer Posted February 12, 2009 Share #12 Posted February 12, 2009 Comiserations. My M8 was in the suppliers hands in mid December. It was despatched to Germany by the agent (Adeal) in mid January. I am hoping for return mid next week. Painful. In the meantime I have been having fun with my Digilux 2, which I recommend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted February 12, 2009 Share #13 Posted February 12, 2009 2 things about using the G1 with Leica M lenses: 1. The crop factor is 2X so it's pretty difficult to find wider focal lengths to use. Everything becomes telephoto. eg 50mm ---> 100mm. 15mm ---> 30mm. 2. The G1 has a DOF stop down viewer function!!! And since the viewfinder is electronic it will compensate for the lower light by increasing the brightness in the viewfinder. I don't own a G1 but from my understanding of this function, you can actually see the bokeh of the Noctilux "TTL" before you take the shot (as an example). Can a G1 owner confirm that this is true? Yes you can, but don't hold your breath. The viewfinder is good but does not show detail that fine so you really take bokeh decisions. I am quite pleased with the G1, which works fine with the WATE. Other lenses I have not tried yet. But I do already know that this Leica lens performs considerably better vs the supplied kit-lens as to overall color, contrast, sharpness, chromatic abberation (nil with the WATE, visible with the kit-lens) etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolaksi Posted February 12, 2009 Share #14 Posted February 12, 2009 2 things about using the G1 with Leica M lenses: 1. The crop factor is 2X so it's pretty difficult to find wider focal lengths to use. Everything becomes telephoto. eg 50mm ---> 100mm. 15mm ---> 30mm. 2. The G1 has a DOF stop down viewer function!!! And since the viewfinder is electronic it will compensate for the lower light by increasing the brightness in the viewfinder. I don't own a G1 but from my understanding of this function, you can actually see the bokeh of the Noctilux "TTL" before you take the shot (as an example). Can a G1 owner confirm that this is true? Been playing with the G1 and M lenses for about a week. Using the Rayqual adaptor. Can confirm that bokeh is visible with the Noctilux (and other lenses). As to your first point, I found the most useful lenses with the G1 to be the Voightlander 15mm f/4.5 and my Carl Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 for the reasons you state. Leo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 12, 2009 Share #15 Posted February 12, 2009 WHile waiting for repair , I need one compact digicam- what would you recommend? I was looking at Ricoh Gx200(maybe GR-II). Thanks for looking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have both GRD and GX200. Both are very well made cameras with superb handling qualities. Each yields excellent results and makes an ideal 'go-anywhere' camera when necessary. Neither is an M8, but would fill a gap at an affordable price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolaksi Posted February 12, 2009 Share #16 Posted February 12, 2009 How about this? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/76604-bad-news-here-again/?do=findComment&comment=806650'>More sharing options...
Shootist Posted February 12, 2009 Share #17 Posted February 12, 2009 Yesterday, I was just playing with My M8 using ASA 1250-2500. It was not bad if it was exposed properly. I was surprised with result. BUT.... I was looking the files carefully I saw this line again!!! And dead pixel on the same line. So I contacted Leica they told me I need to send it Germany. ( I found out People IN Japan can take their M8 to service centre in Japan.) I am in Australia and agent deals with Germany only- So I will need to send my camera in. Really I do`nt use those iso speed but actually line and dead pixel is there even with asa160. Just hard to see. I can use my camera normally but knowing there is a line and dead pixel(s), make me not want to use my M8. Would you continue to use it or send in ASAP? WHile waiting for repair , I need one compact digicam- what would you recommend? I was looking at Ricoh Gx200(maybe GR-II). Thanks for looking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I would, and did, send it in as soon as I saw a line (problem) in (with) the sensor. This is going to be interesting, I've had 4 different M8's and 2 of them developed a line in the sensor. I'm presently awaiting the return of my chrome M8 which was sent in for a line in the sensor. With the price of new and used M8's going down, instead of buying a P&S (or some type of glorified small sensor camera) just buy a second M8/.2 body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted February 12, 2009 Get this: If you explore the G1 to keep your M8 lenses occupied, I suggest that you remove the UV/IR filter that is glowing redly in this picture. The G1 shouldn't need it. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolaksi Posted February 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted February 12, 2009 If you explore the G1 to keep your M8 lenses occupied, I suggest that you remove the UV/IR filter that is glowing redly in this picture. The G1 shouldn't need it. scott true. i mounted the noctilux on the G1 just for the photo and then put the lens back where it really belonged. leo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 12, 2009 Share #20 Posted February 12, 2009 That is so Bangkok! Did I guess right?Yes, of course. It's taken at the tea lounge of the old part of the Oriental Hotel. This picture used to be part of my Bangkok book project, which you can look at as a flickr slide show by clicking on the URL below my signature. I live in Bangkok, but won't be back there until May. On the G1, I understand that it is an exciting and ground-breaking camera but, as my favourite focal lengths are 21, 28 and 40mm, I'm not that interested in it for using Leica lenses. —Mitch/Potomac, MD Bangkok Noir©: Book Project - a set on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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