dennersten Posted October 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Look here Leitz Leica MD Post 24x27 Kamera med Summaron 3,5/35 på Tradera. Leica | Has anybody heard of that before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Hi dennersten, Take a look here Black Leica Post. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted October 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2009 Yes, is a well known special model used to record telephone counters, used by phone companies to document billings. Interesting item for lovers of specials: no reason to think it's a fake, for they were built in many many items: rare, but no more than some standard M cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted October 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2009 Yes, is a well known special model used to record telephone counters, used by phone companies to document billings. Interesting item for lovers of specials: no reason to think it's a fake, for they were built in many many items: rare, but no more than some standard M cameras. Don´t know what to think when reading this (Swedish happens to be my native language, of course...). The seller states in the description that "Den här kameran har aldrig existerat i svart utförande.", meaning "this camera never existed in a black version". I´d guess it´s a modification, that the seller knows it is, and wants to give correct info. If anyone wants to dig further, the serial number on the top plate is 928 993, which is indeed listed as a 1958 Postkamera in my edition of Rogliatti.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted October 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2009 Interesting item for lovers of specials: no reason to think it's a fake, for they were built in many many items: rare, but no more than some standard M cameras. Only 32 MD Post Cameras in 24x27 format were made but serial number are from 1141969 - 1142000 not matching with the one exhibited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2009 I think that quoting it as "MD" in ebay ad is indeed misleading... as JC says, MD post are in the range of 1.xxx.xxx s/n (even if, according to some sources, more than 250 in 24x27 format) : batch 928923-929000 (Laney) ought to be M3-based postkameras... no idea if they were all chrome or mixed with black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennersten Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted October 28, 2009 Yes, is a well known special model used to record telephone counters, used by phone companies to document billings. Interesting item for lovers of specials: no reason to think it's a fake, for they were built in many many items: rare, but no more than some standard M cameras. Sorry for a to fast post yesterday. The guy states "this camera have never existed in black". Is that true? Have you guys seen it in black? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennersten Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted October 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) OK so now i read all post .. I have two more questions for you. * Have i understood you right guys? As this camera is not in "the lists" it has more of a curiosity monetary value more than a collector value? Even if the camera is undoubtley originating from Leica. * I did'nt know that it was possible to detach the lens on a post camera, as shown. is it possible to use regular lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 28, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 28, 2009 OK so now i read all post .. I have two more questions for you. * Have i understood you right guys? As this camera is not in "the lists" it has more of a curiosity monetary value more than a collector value? Even if the camera is undoubtley originating from Leica. * I did'nt know that it was possible to detach the lens on a post camera, as shown. is it possible to use regular lenses? * Well, indeed, following the list I have (Laney - one of the best known historician in the Leica world) the camera would belong to a batch of "postkameras" (see my above post) ; the black paint is indeed odd : in various books I have seen pics of postcameras like this, in chrome, and do not remember to have seen a pic of a black item. In my opinion, it is an item which requires a serious expertiseto determine its "Grade of authenticy"... but I suppose it's indeed at least based on a genuine Leitz body. If authenticy would be proved, is surely a very valuable collectible (with a narrow market, indeed... most of collectors tend to "normal" cameras, even if super rare ... like the Wetzlar Leica 72, or the MP2, or the IIId...) * The bayonet mount looks standard, but there is the black plate with its round aperture that could interfere with certain standard lenses (I think mostly to lenses with protruding focusing tab) : anyway , it would have no much sense.. it has no VF - no RF... and a strange format (that could be appreciated by lovers of Medium Format... it has the proportions of the "6x7" on 120 rollfilm... ) . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted October 28, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 28, 2009 On my MDa Post 24x27 the lens is fixed in its position by a little screw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 29, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 29, 2009 On my MDa Post 24x27 the lens is fixed in its position by a little screw. Mmhhh... what a superfine NUMBER !!! Do you agree with the following numbering, for MD-Post? Postcamera 24x27 1185291 1185300 10 Postcamera 24x36 1206392 1206941 50 Postcamera 24x27 1206942 1206961 20 Postcamera 24x27 1273922 1273925 4 Postcamera 24x36 1273926 127400 75 Postcamera 24x27 1286701 1286760 60 Postcamera 24x27 1286761 1286822 61 Postcamera 24x27 1293878 1294000 123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted October 29, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 29, 2009 Mmhhh... what a superfine NUMBER !!! Do you agree with the following numbering, for MD-Post? Luigi this s/n are for MDa's POST right ? There are in the Laney 7th Edition pocket books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 29, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 29, 2009 Yes they ought to be all MDa Postkameras : I found the list in Camerquest' site - very easy to copy & paste... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted October 29, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 29, 2009 Not included in CameraQuest's list, there are also the first MDa Postkameras : 1164866-1164940 Leica Postkamera 24x36 1967 - 75 This is from Serial Numbers Leica Cameras on the LeicaWiki. I don't know who made the original list. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted October 29, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 29, 2009 Two remarks with regard to the thread about the black Post camera : 1. I had never heard of a black Post camera, and never saw a Post camera from the very first batch (1958, #928293-929000) 2. This is definitely NOT AN MD body : there has never been an MD Post, for the simple reason that the first MD appeared in 1964 (serial 1102501), six years after the production of the first Post Leica cameras. A French collector was first in mentioning the fact that the inside of the so-called "MD Post" was that of an M3. I personally investigated with the Swiss firm Alos, who devised and ordered all Leica Post cameras, and got confirmation that the first batches were modified M3s. De facto, Leitz seems to have used the Post development to later devise the MD : same look, but different inside ! The results of my investigations, and Alos documents, have been published in LHSA's VIEWFINDER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted October 29, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 29, 2009 Making all harder...and this? E..y auction n.110442753239 ,matr.1.067.875 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted October 29, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 29, 2009 Making all harder...and this?E..y auction n.110442753239 ,matr.1.067.875 I know this one and it is an original one the first MD POST in 24x36 is 1067871. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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