nugat Posted May 15, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 15, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just came back from a week of holidays where I had my LX3 and MP with me. In the last moment I decided against M8 and wanted to retry MP and some Velvia film after years of digital and so far unsuccessful comebacks to film. I have to say I am very surprised by the film results. Positively that is. It is way ahead of the best RAW/ISO 80 pix from LX3 and a nice break from the clinical cleanliness of M8. I still can't believe how pleased I am with the results... No PP whatsoever, even no cropping as one can see the black boundaries of the scan. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/84950-surprised-by-film-after-years-of-digital/?do=findComment&comment=900095'>More sharing options...
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nugat Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share #2 Posted May 15, 2009 couple more... In case somebody asked: I like the vignetting of CV Heliar15 mm... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/84950-surprised-by-film-after-years-of-digital/?do=findComment&comment=900104'>More sharing options...
JBA Posted May 15, 2009 Share #3 Posted May 15, 2009 Congrats! Nice pics. Velvia is one fine film. I shoot both 50 and 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted May 15, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 15, 2009 Nice series of photographs. FIlm did not become incompetent when digital sensors were invented. While no longer mainstream, it continues to get better. Look at the best B&W films and papers. Better and better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted May 15, 2009 Share #5 Posted May 15, 2009 Superb pictures whether taken on film or digital. Having said that, I'm glad I have plenty of RVP 50 in my fridge for feeding my four Leica film cameras! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twittle Posted May 15, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 15, 2009 In case somebody asked: I like the vignetting of CV Heliar15 mm... I think vignetting can be used to great effect. It's not always good, but sometimes it really adds to a shot. Your shots are quite nice, by the way, and congrats on rediscovering film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted May 15, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you for the nice words, they are just holiday shots. I can imagine what film can achieve in the hands of an artist. What I am really positevely surprised by is the special quality of colors and darks as conveyed by the film. Toutes proportions...they remind me of the Dutch masters like Vermeer. I guess that effect could be achieved with some postproduction with digital but not so easy out of the box like here. Am I right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2009 Share #8 Posted May 15, 2009 Thank you for the nice words, they are just holiday shots.I can imagine what film can achieve in the hands of an artist. What I am really positevely surprised by is the special quality of colors and darks as conveyed by the film. Toutes proportions...they remind me of the Dutch masters like Vermeer. I guess that effect could be achieved with some postproduction with digital but not so easy out of the box like here. Am I right? Nugat, I agree with you.... I have 2 M8 but i still keep my M7 and R (R8 and R4S) for film color and b&w Wonderful film... it did not die !!! Film has more "matter" and "consistance" according to me and not need of software of correction That is why Leica still produces M7 and MP in 2009 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/85264-m7-mp-continues-produced-2009-a.html and I add that it is what gets closer most to the reality As in music , there is "high fidelity" also in photo ! Superb pictures Thanks for sharing Best regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 15, 2009 Share #9 Posted May 15, 2009 Wait till you try real film, with dynamic range. Not sure about the exposure on the second and third but I reckon they are crackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antistatic Posted May 15, 2009 Share #10 Posted May 15, 2009 Great photos and great location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted May 15, 2009 Share #11 Posted May 15, 2009 Treat yourself to some Kodachrome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunghang Posted May 15, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 15, 2009 I really enjoyed and appreciated the photos... some scenes were very tricky with side/backlighting... but you handled them very well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 15, 2009 Share #13 Posted May 15, 2009 Some of the exposures are a bit iffy, and Velvia is a very unforgiving film. I'll put my hands up, if I was choosing a slide film Velvia would be at the bottom of my list. I hate what it does to colours. It's like an amplifier with the bass and treble fully turned up, it initially sounds 'exciting', but it's a sound you tire of very quickly. Try a roll of Provia, or maybe Astia. Kodachrome would also be a good film to choose, but the processing is a pain if you're outside the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 15, 2009 Share #14 Posted May 15, 2009 Great photos, but I'm surprised you're surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted May 15, 2009 Exposure was very tricky for the desert sun out/dark interiors shots. I guess the DR was missing 3-5 stops here. But which slide film has a greater DR? As for colours, they are the matter of taste and purpose of course. After the pastel M8 it was kind of shock to see the sky so blue. For now I really like this different esthetics though. So do many of my viewers starved on the digital diet. I also had to guess framing for the 15mm Heliar becasue of the lack of viewfinder. But generally I enjoy the comeback. Already bought more reversal film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted May 15, 2009 Share #16 Posted May 15, 2009 But which slide film has a greater DR? Fuji Provia, for example. And Fuji Astia even more. Try them, you'll be even more surprised. Great pics btw. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted May 15, 2009 Share #17 Posted May 15, 2009 Provia can go bluish in some light or in the shade. After many years of Provia, I turned to Kodak E100G and am much happier. Great photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted May 15, 2009 Share #18 Posted May 15, 2009 And don't forget negative film. 80 Summilux-R, Kodak Portra 160NC Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/84950-surprised-by-film-after-years-of-digital/?do=findComment&comment=900684'>More sharing options...
tgray Posted May 15, 2009 Share #19 Posted May 15, 2009 It's good stuff, isn't it? I wonder how many of the early digital converts don't realize some of the great film that is out there now. Ektar 100, the reformulated Portras, etc. For example, if you stopped shooting film in 2001-2002, you've missed both revisions of Portra 400NC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2009 Share #20 Posted May 15, 2009 And don't forget negative film.80 Summilux-R, Kodak Portra 160NC Cpclee, Great portrait with another great film like Portra (i prefer 400VC) To say plainly I like both my M8 and my M7 I feel more pleasure however to shoot with M7 and which silence for the shutter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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