MF Leica

[KevinA]

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Has there been more speculation on this? What would it be, MF range finder or a hassy/Mamiya type? It would be a huge step for Leica to take, maybe to big.

 

Kevin.

[bill]

Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh...!

[KevinA]

Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh...!

 

Shall I call an Ambulance?

 

Kevin.

[bill]

No, just use the Search facility.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

[earleygallery]

I can't tell you where I heard it but Leica bought the tooling for the Bronica cameras from Tamron and are working on it to be the new MF Leica system with interchangeable digital backs. There will be different 'films' by way of different backs, want B&W Tri X stylee, put the High Grain BW back on. Prefer more saturated colours? Then there will be the 'Chroma Colour Back'. There will also be a 'neutral' standard CCD back.

 

Its really exciting - especially for me as I already have some Bronica lenses which will fit. R lenes will fit with adaptors but some functions will only work on manual and not AF of course.

[stevelap]

I can't tell you where I heard it but Leica bought the tooling for the Bronica cameras from Tamron and are working on it to be the new MF Leica system with interchangeable digital backs. There will be different 'films' by way of different backs, want B&W Tri X stylee, put the High Grain BW back on. Prefer more saturated colours? Then there will be the 'Chroma Colour Back'. There will also be a 'neutral' standard CCD back.

 

Its really exciting - especially for me as I already have some Bronica lenses which will fit. R lenes will fit with adaptors but some functions will only work on manual and not AF of course.

 

 

Naughty, naughty James. Bill is probably on his way to casualty right now:)

[KevinA]

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No, just use the Search facility.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

I did try "MF" as a search, nothing of note. You must of been curious to look at the thread with "MF Leica" as the title. Is it like a spot you know you shouldn't scratch, but..... just one scratch won't hurt.

 

Kevin.

[KevinA]

Naughty, naughty James. Bill is probably on his way to casualty right now:)

 

OK you can let go of my leg now.

 

Kevin.

[stevelap]

http://http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/36833-second-member-lhsa-r10-confirmed.html

 

Try this link to catch up with this topic.

 

In his own inimitable way, Bill is hinting that this ground has been well covered. He's also not too fond of rumour and speculation, by the way;)

As you can tell from many threads though, others can't get enough of it.

[offshore]

Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh...!

 

Come on people that was the sound of an orgasm over the hint of a new MF system not a cry of pain. And by the way where I come from MF doesn't stand for manual focus.

[SJP]

One wonders if the Leica MF system will be suitable for professional reporting from Irak

 

 

 

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[sdai]

MF = middle finger ... no?

[like_no_other]

Could someone explain me this, please?

How is the smallest of the camera companies able to support the highest number of camera mounts/sensor sizes/camera sizes with their products.

They have or will have:

1. medium format

2. R-Mount (with DMR)

3. M-mount

4. FT

5. possibly Micro FT

6. compact model V-Lux size

7. compact model smaller than V-Lux sized camera

8. smallest compact model (C-Lux)

 

If we don't count R in favour of new medium format we still have 7 sizes.

If there will be a smaller M camera we have 8 again.

I know some products are mostly made by Panasonic but Leica still have a big workload for each model.

I mean it's a risk to adress too many markets with too few people. To have success in each of these markets marketing must be done well, support processes must run well, sales channels must be developped, research&development together with partners mut be done competent and in-time, production and logistics have to be planned, Leica people have to be trained for each product, ....

 

How can Leica be competitive in each of it's addressed markets if they can't be competitive doing their homework due to the sheer disadvantage regarding the much smaller numbers of people working for Leica compared to the competition?

I think that everything is done a bit, a bit marketing, a bit training, ...

I think that if they don't want to collapse they have to concentrate on fewer markets sooner or later.

[arminw]

Whatever this camera may be, lets hope it doesn't have to go through the same development stages as the M8, and it better be affordable too ......

[Nitnaros]

Most of us have heard that Leica will introduce a Medium Format SLR system at Photokina.

 

If at the same time the "R" product line is discontinued (yes, an ugly word, but things like that happen, see DMR), what will you do with your R equipment:

 

- If you have a R8/R9-DMR combo, will you keep shooting that combo or switching in the nearer future to a different digital system and selling off your R stuff ? (Since there will be no new R lenses in the future; and the DMR is already discontinued)

 

- If you have been waiting for a R10 to use with your existing R lenses, will you sell off your R8, R9 and the lenses?

 

Just curious what others think.

 

The rumors I heard is that the R line will indeed by discontinued; but we all know more soon...

 

Peter

[wildlightphoto]

I'll see what Leica has planned before I make any plans of my own. I'm not making any equipment purchase or sale plans based on rumors.

[R10dreamer]

I would keep my R/DMR until it doesn't work any longer but I would definitely migrate over to another 35mm system. Don't know which one. As it is I shoot a lot of 4 x 5 for studio work so the DMR is not my total system. I pray that this is not their decision though.

 

PS. I would probably be in the hunt to buy a couple of more used DMR's as insurance.

[rsh]

I remember the first Leicaflex, and then the SL and the SL2. I have enjoyed Leicaflexes and Leica R for many years. I love the lenses and the cameras. I have bought and sold and sold and bought. The DMR does all that I need with respect to my photography. I will keep it, even if I eventually move to another system. But for me, taking a photo without a Leica Lens just doesn't work.

[offshore]

MF = middle finger ... no?

No, M= MOTHER, which is only half the expression.

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[ho_co]

They have or will have:

1. medium format

2. R-Mount (with DMR)

3. M-mount

4. FT

5. possibly Micro FT

6. compact model V-Lux size

7. compact model smaller than V-Lux sized camera

8. smallest compact model (C-Lux)

l_n_o--Hold on there.

 

1) medium format--pure rumor so far

2) R--despite its quality and numerous revisions, continues to lag in sales; some rumors say it should or will be discontinued

3) M--the only long-term breadwinner for the camera division

4) FourThirds--Leica has said it's getting out of FoourThirds, so shouldn't that be stricken?

5) "possibly Micro FT"--and (see previous item) possibly not; interesting prospect, though

6), 7) and 8)--as you said, tweaked Panasonic models in which Leica has little investment

 

9) you didn't mention rumored R10--but that's just another variant on the conjectured #1

 

Before we start asking how Leica can do something that they may not be planning to do, let's wait for photokina or at least for the expected pre-photokina press announcements on September 15.

 

Remember, there are a lot of companies besides Leica in this bubble. Leica buys from Panasonic, Panasonic buys from Chinese subcontractors. Nikon also produces some products itself but farms others out to China. Some say that Nikon has ceased production of all film models, simply selling from stock. Who is actually doing what isn't generally public knowledge; product mixes change; companies restructure their priorities. So in answer to your question, "How can they do it?": Maybe they can't. But they'll let us know.