35 Summarit Bokeh (imgs)

[Ozkar]

Following up on my 35 Summarit Surprise thread, I just wanted to post a handful of images. There's nothing special about the subjects. I was really trying to get a handle on bokeh and how the lens performed outdoors.

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[Mauribix]

The new King of Bokeh.
Must have!

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by Mauribix

The new King of Bokeh.
Must have!

It's really quite impressive and seems to be very consistent in all lighting conditions. In the third shot the sun was almost directly behind the tree in the background. Flare and veiling glare are so well controlled.

All shots were taken without a lens hood. I generally always use a lens hood outdoors, especially in bright conditions. But it's great to be able to shoot without a hood since it makes for a very compact package.

For now Maurizio, I'm sorry to say I won't be selling this little gem in a hurry!

Ozkar

[chuber]

Have another one at f2.5



Kind Regards
Christian

[sliversurger]

indoor bokeh...

[Mauribix]

Originally Posted by Ozkar

For now Maurizio, I'm sorry to say I won't be selling this little gem in a hurry!

Ozkar

Ouch!

[Haya]

lovely lens nice bokeh very crisp and contrasty images, I just ordered a 35mm f1.2 Nokton myself, I hope it performs half as well as the Summarit, this thread is giving me buyers remorse !

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by Haya

lovely lens nice bokeh very crisp and contrasty images, I just ordered a 35mm f1.2 Nokton myself, I hope it performs half as well as the Summarit, this thread is giving me buyers remorse !

I don't think you will be disappointed with the Nokton. If you need the speed then there is no point in a Summarit. But the Nokton is a seriously big lens by comparison.

Ozkar

[jeffwros]

Just sold a Nokton f/1.2 because of the size and "dfferent" look I was getting compared to my Leica lenses. It's quite sharp and works nicely but I found that I simply wasn't using it instead opting for my Leica lenses.

Again, I'm not disparaging the Nokton ...it works very well and was plenty sharp. Just, for me, I was ready to sell it. I was thinking about the 35 Summicron someday but the Summarit may become a strong contender if I keep reading these threads!

[dseelig]

Any comparison shots same scene wit a 35 cron version 4 and the 35 summarit??

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by dseelig

Any comparison shots same scene wit a 35 cron version 4 and the 35 summarit??

Guy Mancuso carried out a very extensive resolution & bokeh comparison between the 35 Summarit and 35 Summicron IV not so long ago. You should be able to locate it via search.

I sold my 35 CRON IV some months ago. In these conditions I am absolutely certain it would not have performed as well as the 35 Summarit. Harsh lighting across foliage and the like in the background always resulted in disturbing bokeh. And below 2.8 veiling glare was a problem. Given that I often shoot in bright, perhaps harsh, outdoor conditions these were issues for me. If you shoot more often in soft lighting then the bokeh of the CRON IV is on par.

I see no reason to buy a CRON IV nowadays since a new Summarit is so well priced. The Summarit at f2.5 (actually 2.4) seems better allround than the CRON IV at the same aperture. It is also 6 bit coded and comes with a 2 year warranty. How can you go wrong?

Ozkar

[j. borger]

I always prefered my cron IV to my cron asph ........... but after trying the summarit I sold them both and just bought the summarit ............ the lens is that good, especially for B&W: a great tonal range, creamy look and wonderful bokeh!

[Samir Jahjah]

Originally Posted by Ozkar

Following up on my 35 Summarit Surprise thread, I just wanted to post a handful of images. There's nothing special about the subjects. I was really trying to get a handle on bokeh and how the lens performed outdoors.

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I personnaly find the bokeh on the first 3 pictures quite unpleasant, harsh and distracting. I am not impressed...but it seems I am in a minority here.

[RobertW]

Originally Posted by Samir Jahjah

I personnaly find the bokeh on the first 3 pictures quite unpleasant, harsh and distracting. I am not impressed...but it seems I am in a minority here.

IBID
Not too much bokeh there at all on "normal" distanced objects.

For the pictures of the close up flower I can set the aperature at f/4 and also get that same blurry background effect.

With f/2.5 the shots are .... fairly sharp all over (except for the close ups)

Bokeh aside, looks like a great lens but the Zeiss Biogon has simliar Bokeh (although no Leica name ) and the CV Nokton 35 f/1.2 is simply stunning for bokeh and centre sharpness only (it has to be, its almost as big and heavy as the Noctilux! )

Best
Rob

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by Samir Jahjah

I personnaly find the bokeh on the first 3 pictures quite unpleasant, harsh and distracting. I am not impressed...but it seems I am in a minority here.

Considering that the background in all three are lit by somewhat bright, harsh light the bokeh is very good. I was deliberately trying to provoke unwieldy bokeh, but the Summarit responds very well.

If you have samples from other 35's that will respond better in the same conditions I would be very interested to see them.

Ozkar

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by RobertW

IBID
Bokeh aside, looks like a great lens but the Zeiss Biogon has simliar Bokeh (although no Leica name ) and the CV Nokton 35 f/1.2 is simply stunning for bokeh and centre sharpness only (it has to be, its almost as big and heavy as the Noctilux! )

Best
Rob

I fully agree. But the Summarit makes for a beautifully, compact package, particularly considering that it doesn't seem to need a hood.

Ozkar

[arthury]

The first one really brought out the resolution and cleanliness of the colors. What aperture did you use for it?

[rosuna]

Originally Posted by Ozkar

I see no reason to buy a CRON IV nowadays since a new Summarit is so well priced.

Well, there are chrome (brass) versions of the Summicron 35mm IV. This may be a reason for some people.

[Ozkar]

Originally Posted by arthury

The first one really brought out the resolution and cleanliness of the colors. What aperture did you use for it?

Shot at f2.8.

[lct]

No doubled lines apparently and bright OoF zones don't seem to have sharp edges either. Looks very good at first glance. Give me the same with f/1.4 please.