pete_g Posted March 11, 2008 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) My house in Fulham, London, was burgled yesterday and I'm now, I'm sad to say, a tad light on the photographic equipment front. I thought I'd post the serial numbers here in the unlikely event that a UK member might see something unusually cheap being offered. Leica M8 body - 3107988 28mm 2.8 Elmarit ASPH - 4006099 75mm 2.5 Summarit-M - 4048491 Cosina-Voightlander Super Wide Heliar 15mm 4.5 Asph - 9730543 I think I'll probably get a "cheap" digital back for my Hasselblad 503 instead of another M8. Not that I disliked the camera, quite the opposite - but I'll try another route. I would hope in the future to re-join the M8 clan though. Would anyone know, by the way, where I might stand with Adobe as regards the brand new versions of PS CS3 and Lightroom, which were on one of three laptops that went walkies at the same time? Regards pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Hi pete_g, Take a look here Another M8 stolen ! . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Nick De Marco Posted March 11, 2008 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2008 Very sorry to hear about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 11, 2008 Share #3 Posted March 11, 2008 If you haven't done this already, can I suggest a round robin email to all leica and used camera dealers - you will find most via http://www.ukcamera.co.uk - might be worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted March 11, 2008 Share #4 Posted March 11, 2008 Damn, that sucks! In 1994 I had over $15,000 in Nikon gear stolen at a job. That beat the previous record of $4,500 two years before. What I did to remedy that was: A. Get the heck out of nasty old L.A. B. Keep my gear in a fire-proof gun safe that is bolted to the floor when not in use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayerische Posted March 11, 2008 Share #5 Posted March 11, 2008 Sorry to hear. Sadly even stolen gear will switch hands when the price is low enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rweisz Posted March 11, 2008 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2008 How much of a market can there be for that gear in the UK, compared to say N. America or the European continent? Unless they smuggle it across the channel? Anyway, that just totally reeks. I mean, forget the stuff, I imagine you've got insurance, but having someone go through your house is a major horror. I had it happen to me once, and the only thing that was lucky was that day my wife had taken our dog to the vet to have his teeth cleaned so he wasn't home. Otherwise they might have taken him too, or killed him for fun. Leica really ought to have a spot on there website to list stolen serial #'s. Maybe I'm naiive but I think most guys who are into Leica wouldn't knowingly buy hot gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayerische Posted March 11, 2008 Share #7 Posted March 11, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) How much of a market can there be for that gear in the UK, compared to say N. America or the European continent? GB is a country large enough to have stolen goods disappear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rweisz Posted March 11, 2008 Share #8 Posted March 11, 2008 NYC is a city large enough to have stolen goods disappear. But there's goods and then there's goods, and there's disappear as in somebody buys it locally and disappear as in it leaves town. A 2006 XJ8L could get stolen on the upper west side and "disappear" without ever leaving Manhattan. A cherry '67 Camaro, not so much. Ditto (I would think) a Canon 5D vs an M8, of which there are only 20-25K in the world, and nowhere near as big a market. The average joe on the street snapshooter isn't going to want an M8 if it cost him $500. It takes a serious amature or a pro, and even then, someone willing to deal with a non-AF rangefinder. A Leica enthusiast in otherwords. And I suppose there are the dishonest ones but I haven't met many who I wouldn't bet would rat the seller out if he knew it was hot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 11, 2008 Share #9 Posted March 11, 2008 Would anyone know, by the way, where I might stand with Adobe as regards the brand new versions of PS CS3 and Lightroom, which were on one of three laptops that went walkies at the same time? Pete, sorry to hear you're bad news. I can imagine how you feel. Regarding the Adobe products. I'm assuming you want to somehow de-activate the versions that were on the stolen laptops so you can reload the software onto replacement machines. I think you're going to have to speak to Adobe. This must be something that's sadly happened before to other people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_g Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted March 11, 2008 Pete, sorry to hear you're bad news. I can imagine how you feel. Regarding the Adobe products. I'm assuming you want to somehow de-activate the versions that were on the stolen laptops so you can reload the software onto replacement machines. I think you're going to have to speak to Adobe. This must be something that's sadly happened before to other people. Thanks to all for commiserations. I would imagine there would be a greater chance of recovering a Leica generally speaking, but it could well be sold to somebody who is not a "Leica fan". Who knows. Anyway I've discovered that Adobe licenses CS3 and Lightroom for use on two computers, I'd forgotten this, so I have one life left. They may even give me another chance if the stars are in the right part of the sky. The Thinkpad will almost certainly be restored to initial factory condition using the restore partition, then to be sold at a computer fair or wherever. As for my Hasselblad ideas, it's not written in stone yet. Weight may be a problem, so I may well get another M8. I must admit that I am missing it already, funny how these cameras grow on you. I have to make my mind up quickly as we're off on a gigantic tour of Spain in a month or two and the M8 (or whatever) is to play a major role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 11, 2008 Share #11 Posted March 11, 2008 Peter, Sorry to hear about the loss. I know you must feel like shooting them. It is probably obvious but keep an eye on eBay. Leica used to have a stolen items register - I remember putting my Digilux 1 on it but I have a feeling it may have become defunct. However it would be worth advising both Leica UK, New Jersey and Solms, just in case the items appear for service, possibly from an innocent buyer. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoMammabot Posted March 11, 2008 Share #12 Posted March 11, 2008 I wish you the best of luck getting your equipment back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted March 12, 2008 Share #13 Posted March 12, 2008 Pete, I'm very sorry to hear about the theft. I think we all feel for you. I hope that by some lucky turn of events, it will all be recovered. I have my name and telephone number on all my cameras on the bottom plates. I'd be up the creek without a paddle if my equipment were stolen. Regards, Wilfredo Benitez-Rivera Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 12, 2008 Share #14 Posted March 12, 2008 Pete, I'm very sorry to hear about the theft. I think we all feel for you. I hope that by some lucky turn of events, it will all be recovered. I have my name and telephone number on all my cameras on the bottom plates. I'd be up the creek without a paddle if my equipment were stolen. Regards, Wilfredo Benitez-Rivera Photography I concur with Wilfredo. I have all my gear marked with a UV pen. The problem is it is not very permanent and needs to be refreshed quite often. I know it has been covered before in another thread but check that you have your Leica gear adequately insured. In the UK at least, most insurers have an all risk extension on household contents policies. However, there is normally a per unit limit of £2500 or less. An insurer (post loss of course) will normally classify a camera body and lens as a single unit. Thus if you have a brand new M8, with either a WATE or Noctilux on it - total value £6500, they will only pay out £2500 on this. Technically, if you have a difficult insurer and a lot of them are, under a weird insurance law called "Particular Average" they could get away with just paying you £2500 multiplied by 2500 and divided by 6500 i.e. £961, because you theoretically had underinsured the camera and lens, even though it was their rule and not your requirement. Be warned! The only solution if you have a "per item" limit on your household contents policy is to buy specific camera insurance. I spent about 2 days before I went to the Caribbean in February looking at various policies and reading the policy wordings (I was a marine insurance broker or underwriter through most of my working life). I was pretty alarmed at some of the restrictive clauses on a lot of the policies. Some amounted to "we will take your premiums but unless you can prove you were hit by a meteor, forget about getting your claim paid". Photoguard seemed to be the least bad of all the UK policies I looked at and I therefore went with them - not cheap however at £338 for just £10,000 of cover. I have assumed my lower value lenses (90/2.8, 75/2.5 and 135/4) will still be covered under my household policy but have named items and agreed values for the rest (M8, WATE, 35/1.4 and 50/1.4). I have no connection with Photoguard or their owners (JLT Online). Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted March 12, 2008 Share #15 Posted March 12, 2008 Since LEICA is the only company to make a repair/ upgrade on the M8 you might soon see it back when the new >>owner<< sends it in ... Sorry for your loss ! Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_g Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share #16 Posted March 12, 2008 Bill, Thanks for the advice. The M8 body was listed as a separate item at over GBP2500 but I'm sure we'll have problems claiming anyway and it will take months, as usual. Your caution about which policies to go for is very useful to all of us. There is, by the way, a national stolen goods database that the police were very keen for me to register with. They say they have enormous amounts of stolen goods but don't know the owners and this makes it difficult to a) return goods and charge the suspects. For the record it is: http://www.immobilise.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted March 12, 2008 Share #17 Posted March 12, 2008 Really sorry to hear this. I know how you feel. The only moral I'd say is that it's much better to insure this kind of kit separately from household cover. As I said after my disaster in Lisbon, AADUKI are great. I had over £7000 ($14 K) worth of equipment stolen and it's been replaced within the week. GREAT insurers (+ RG Lewis being super helpful and even offering a discount to help me out). Hope you get something back soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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