noddy Posted July 11, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all I have recently aquired a 5cm Elmar - love it by the way. Could anybody tell me whether it's worth getting a lens hood for it, ie, hoods are supposed to improve performance etc. Personaly, I would rather hear from someone who actually shoots with the setup before I go ahead and purchase. Any thoughts would be most appriciated. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hektor Posted July 11, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 11, 2007 Could anybody tell me whether it's worth getting a lens hood for it? Andy Dear Andy, I use both the Elmar 5cm f/3.5 and f2.8. In simple terms, the older the lens the greater the need for a lens-hood. With coated post-war lenses you will get acceptable results without a lens-hood, particularly if the light source is behind you, however even in that situation I have found the addition of the hood improves contrast; Also colour saturation if colour film is being used. Because back or strong side lighting is my favourite, I had made a lens-hood for my Minilux as Leica Camera AG does not provide one, the argument being that modern coating is so good that an lens-hood is hardly necessary. Well the proof is in the results and even with the superbly corrected Summarit the advantage of a lens-hood is apparent. Have fun. Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted July 11, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 11, 2007 I have recently aquired a 5cm Elmar. Andy Andy, What is the serial number of the lens? It is engraved on the aperture control ring. What film do you use behind the lens? Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted July 12, 2007 Cheers Justin The number is 1340462, I beleive this is from 1956 - it's a Red Scale, if that makes any difference. Film used - Fuji Professional PRO160S. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted July 12, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 12, 2007 The number is 1340462, I beleive this is from 1956 - it's a Red Scale, if that makes any difference. Film used - Fuji Professional PRO160S. Andy Dear Andy, Assuming the lens does not need a CLA, you have what is considered the best of the 5cm Elmars. I have the same lens and a FISON lens-hood is worth having. IMHO the film you are using is one of the best, however I rate it at 100 ISO for better colour and shadow detail. For what its worth I sometimes use Fuji Superia 400 at 250 with the older low contrast lenses to give the picture a bit more punch. Best wishes. Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted July 13, 2007 Thanks again Justin The advice regarding film is interesting, Ive got some fuji Superia 400, must give that ago. take care Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 13, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, the correct hood is the old screw-secured FISON... I think you have not problem to find one... it was on Leitz price list for decades and made in thousands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 13, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 13, 2007 Andy, An even better hood solution for your Elmar would be an accessory code named VALOO. It fuctions as a shade, but has an arrangement whereby it attaches to the f-stop lever. When mounted correctly, your lens will not only have a proper shade, but also click-stopped aperture settings. To save me taking a picture of mine, here is a link to one I quickly found on eBay: Leitz VALOO 16620 Leica Diaphragm Adjusting Ring on eBay 35mm Rangefinder, Film Cameras, Cameras Photo Best, Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted July 13, 2007 Thanks again you guys, you are all so helpfull. This VALOO thing looks interesting Jan.. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 13, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 13, 2007 Thanks again you guys, you are all so helpfull. This VALOO thing looks interesting Jan.. Andy Without a doubt it is the best hood you can have on the 3.5/50mm Elmar. You are very welcome, Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted July 13, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 13, 2007 An even better hood solution for your Elmar would be an accessory code named VALOO. It fuctions as a shade, but has an arrangement whereby it attaches to the f-stop lever. When mounted correctly, your lens will not only have a proper shade, but also click-stopped aperture settings. . . . . . I have a spare VALOO if anyone is interested. It is in noticeably better condition than the one on eBay. . . . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bastin Posted July 14, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 14, 2007 The VALOO (or type) hood on the ebay link is for when the Elmar is being used on an enlarger - the readings are upside-down. Is there any difference in weight between this and the one for use on a camera ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 14, 2007 The VALOO (or type) hood on the ebay link is for when the Elmar is being used on an enlarger - the readings are upside-down. Is there any difference in weight between this and the one for use on a camera ? Adrian, The VALOO in that auction is photographed upside down. When mounted on the camera, the numbers are still well visible and it sure beats sliding your fingernail along the lens rim to change the f-stop....... My VALOO weighs 60 gr (2.1 oz). It is heavier than the FISON hood but, much easier to use. Anybody who tried changing the f-stop with the FISON in place will agree. There used to be an adapter code named VOOLA, which fit inside the FISON and grabbbed the f-stop arm when one turned the FISON. It is harder to find than the VALOO and when in use it is very easy to lose both the FISON and the VOOLA. The FISON cannot be fully tightened around the lens in order to provide some slack when turning the VOOLA and the whole contraption can fall off the lens quite easily. Now - if you can interpret all the code names and figure out what I am actually trying to say.... my hat off to you! Best, Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bastin Posted July 14, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 14, 2007 It's shown the way up it would be on an enlarger, with the figures the right way up. On the camera they will be upside-down. It also has click stops for use in the darkroom. And it even looks like a Focotar. I thought there was another specially for use on a camera but I guess they are all the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bastin Posted July 14, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 14, 2007 I did catch all that, by the way! I tend to use the 35 Summaron hood (no idea of the code) - not as effective but you can get your finger into it for the aperture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bastin Posted July 15, 2007 Share #16 Posted July 15, 2007 No double entendre was entendre..d. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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