msadat Posted October 16, 2007 Share #1 Posted October 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does it make sense for leica to change the mount of the new R10? rumored to be AF? and then you can use the old r line with an adapter!! how would u all feel about something like this? PS business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pascal_meheut Posted October 16, 2007 Share #2 Posted October 16, 2007 business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. If I have to buy new lenses to get AF and drop my current 10 R lenses, I 'm not sure I'll buy Leica ones again. Nikon or Canon will be tempting then because I may not have the money anyway. P.S: a 14-24mm/2.8 Nikon is 2000€ and is excellent on the D3. A 15mm/2.8 ASPH Leica is 6000€. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4season Posted October 16, 2007 Share #3 Posted October 16, 2007 how would u all feel about something like this? Yuck! Absolutely not! If you want a Canon, buy a Canon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted October 16, 2007 Share #4 Posted October 16, 2007 Does it make sense for leica to change the mount of the new R10? rumored to be AF? and then you can use the old r line with an adapter!! how would u all feel about something like this? PS business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. Don't even think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 16, 2007 Share #5 Posted October 16, 2007 PS business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. If I have to buy new lenses to use an R10, I'll not be buying an R10. Like many R users, I have (say it quietly...) thousands of pounds invested in my R glass, all of which would be "worthless" should any future R body not accept them. Using an adaptor will, inevitably, mean some sort of compromise. If the M8 can use lenses from 1954, I see not reason why an R10 shouldn't be able to use all 3-cam lenses. If a new mount was to be adopted, it would make it clear what Leica really think of R-users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiespanhol Posted October 16, 2007 Share #6 Posted October 16, 2007 Does it make sense for leica to change the mount of the new R10? rumored to be AF? and then you can use the old r line with an adapter!! how would u all feel about something like this? PS business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. If Leica change the mount of the new R I will not buy one for sure! If the M8 still accepts all the M lenses since 1954 so why we R users are not in the same level? We are poor costumers for Leica? And why so many time whait for notice about this new camera from Leica? WE R USERS DESERVE BETTER ATTENTION FROM LEICA!!! Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_mitchell Posted October 16, 2007 Share #7 Posted October 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) This has been debated countless times before. Please search before you post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msadat Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted October 16, 2007 most things are, doe it mean we can not talk about it anymore? This has been debated countless times before. Please search before you post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted October 16, 2007 Share #9 Posted October 16, 2007 Perhaps the "d" lenses (4/3rds) will work with an adapter on the new R 10, allowing CAM or ROM and the new "D" lenses with autofocus, ISO, etc.. i do not know if this is possible ...to mount a 4/3rd lens on a 35 mm but if so sounds like everyone would be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 16, 2007 Share #10 Posted October 16, 2007 ...to mount a 4/3rd lens on a 35 mm but if so sounds like everyone would be happy I wouldn't be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 16, 2007 Share #11 Posted October 16, 2007 If the adapters are provided free or cheap, and they fully function with ROM, aperture, and everything as the current lenses, yes. Otherwise no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted October 16, 2007 Share #12 Posted October 16, 2007 Perhaps the "d" lenses (4/3rds) will work with an adapter on the new R 10, allowing CAM or ROM and the new "D" lenses with autofocus, ISO, etc.. i do not know if this is possible ...to mount a 4/3rd lens on a 35 mm but if so sounds like everyone would be happy I too hope this is true, but not as a replacement for R lens backwards compatibility, just as an added feature. You'd obviously get only the half sensor crop that the 4/3 lenses are designed for (I'm assuming the R10 will be full frame), but this would make the adoption of the R system more feasable for those of us who have jumped on the "D" system bandwagon in the meantime. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 16, 2007 Share #13 Posted October 16, 2007 Nikon surely could help adding a 2x crop mode into the R10, many 4/3 lenses' image circles are big enough to cover the DX picture frame .... both Nikon and Canon owe Leica something by copying the Leica mount in the 50s and 60s. But I suspect that Leica probably will drop the 4/3 support after all. All has appeared on their web site is nothing more than a Digilux 3 with the kit lens. Theoretically the Digilux 4 or 5 can be anything, I personally prefer a reincarnation of the defunct Digilux 2 just with a bigger sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted October 16, 2007 Share #14 Posted October 16, 2007 I'm sure if they change the mount they will provide an adapter that will preserve all the functionality of R lenses. The R lenses are not exactly loaded with electronic interfaces so it will probably be a non-issue (except that the adapter will cost as much as an average Canikon zoom ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 16, 2007 Share #15 Posted October 16, 2007 Does it make sense for leica to change the mount of the new R10? rumored to be AF?...how would u all feel about something like this?.. I would feel like an idiot as i've just bought 4 second-hand R lenses to avoid price increases when the R10 will be announced... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted October 16, 2007 Share #16 Posted October 16, 2007 I would feel like an idiot as i've just bought 4 second-hand R lenses to avoid price increases when the R10 will be announced... I wouldn't worry about it LCT... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp Posted October 17, 2007 Share #17 Posted October 17, 2007 Does it make sense for leica to change the mount of the new R10? rumored to be AF? and then you can use the old r line with an adapter!! how would u all feel about something like this? PS business wise it is good, everybody needs to buy new lenses. A change of the mount would be suicide for the system, as there is no reason to do this. Nikon and Pentax both fitted AF capabilities into their old mount which are smaller than Leica's. Canon and Minolta got away with it, because it was brand new technology back then, Contax (which presented a AF system for the MF mount long long time ago) just disappeared after introduction of the AF mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 17, 2007 Share #18 Posted October 17, 2007 Perhaps the "d" lenses (4/3rds) will work with an adapter on the new R 10, allowing CAM or ROM and the new "D" lenses with autofocus, ISO, etc.. i do not know if this is possible ...to mount a 4/3rd lens on a 35 mm but if so sounds like everyone would be happy No chance. The FourThirds system has a much shorter flange distance (about 8 mm shorter). And with lenses using about 25 percent of the sensor pixels (assuming a 36 x 24 mm sensor), who would care for such an adapter, even if it were possible? This would reduce a, say, 12 MP camera to 3 MP – not a happy outlook for many. I see no reason why Leica should switch to a new mount. Other vendors have added AF to their mounts before; Leica could do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 17, 2007 Share #19 Posted October 17, 2007 Macro freaks could find some use of the 4/3 lenses on a R as nice extension tubes (I'm sure some would figure out a way to do it) ... Regarding AF on the next R ... Leica better adopt an ultrasonic drive motor in lens in one step instead of leaving it in camera. Just think about the dilemma Nikon is facing now ... they simply can't risk to alienate the owners of older AF-I and AF-D models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepetto Posted October 17, 2007 Share #20 Posted October 17, 2007 Pentax has maintained compatibility with all it's lenses from screwmount to K-mount and autofocus stretching back 50 years. I am sure Leica will do the same. Besides the best bet is that Leica autofocus R lenses will have the motors in the lens instead of the camera body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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