ptarmigan Posted October 8, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) M Coder Kit | M lens encoding Anyone using this kit? Does it work well? When the ink wears off, does it leave a mess and if so can it be safely removed? I'm also concerned about having 'residual ink' flying about behind the lens that might contaminate the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Hi ptarmigan, Take a look here M Coder Kit. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hx911 Posted October 8, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 8, 2009 works well for me, no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eziomi Posted October 8, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 8, 2009 I had it since more than one year , and I did code all my lens including the 28-35-50 and it works very well. No problem with the ink you can remove it easily. I use the same product for the sensor cleaning , which his : eclipse2 together with a pec-pad. EM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted October 8, 2009 And no problem with residue getting onto the sensor as the ink wears off with the fitting and refitting of lens to body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpstjp Posted October 8, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 8, 2009 No. Bear in mind that the coding works in conjunction with the frame lines. It's not enough to code a lens, the lens mount needs to bring up the right framelines as well. Leica M8 Lens Codes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted October 8, 2009 Thanks. Am about to get a 75mm cron ASPH 6 bit and as the 35 cron ASPH is not 6 bit, I wanted to be able to code the latter and leave lens detection on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzcloud Posted October 8, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have one, it works good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted October 8, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 8, 2009 just got one and pen doesn't work!! contacting dealer tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 8, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 8, 2009 I got this one match Technical Services - Coder Kit and it works as I had heard: It takes seconds to code you lenses. Only problem is that the ink can wear off wither from contact with the camera bayonet or - more likely in my case - the lens protectors. But it does allow you to code any lens and see how it works on a digital M. A good example is my 21/3.4 which I would never have expected to be coded (and certainly wouldn't have sent it to Solms as they don't have a code for them): But I did code it with the kit in seconds (as WATE) and it's a great lens, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted October 8, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 8, 2009 Ian, you gets wot you pay for.and you don't need to code your 75mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted October 9, 2009 Ian, you gets wot you pay for.and you don't need to code your 75mm As I said in the post, the 75 is 6 bit anyway. Unsure what you mean by 'you get what you pay for' - care to elaborate? I spose I could shoot with lens detection off as I have seen no ill effects from shooting the 35 cron with no coding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pope Posted October 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 9, 2009 Ian, if the 75 is already coded, then why not just send the 35mm to Leica to be coded? The cost ought to be similar to the cost of the M-coder. The down side is that you will be without the lens for a while. It all depends on whether Leica UK have the lens mounts available (I believe the 35 Summicron doesn't have to be sent back to Germany unlike some lenses). When I had my lenses coded by Leica, they were away for about 10 days. IIRC it costs about £60 to get a lens coded by Leica, Hope that helps Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaay Posted October 9, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 9, 2009 I see many positive responses to this, i however had quite a different experience. I found there was too much play in the plastic 'coder' to make the positions accurate enough and the pen worked for the first set of marks and then when i had to remove them and redo because my M8 didn't read it the pen didn't work the second time. I promptly sent it back and got a refund. Now this may be down to the lens i was using as others seem very happy with it. In the end i marked the 6 sensor positions on the camera body with masking tape, mounted the lens and transferred the tape to the same position (but on the lens now) and then made the coding marks with a CD labelling pen in the corresponding positions - this has worked flawlessly every time. Any excess ink quickly gets rubbed off and left on the lens mount on the camera body - this can then be wiped away with a damp cloth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted October 10, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 10, 2009 M Coder Kit | M lens encoding Anyone using this kit? Does it work well? When the ink wears off, does it leave a mess and if so can it be safely removed? I'm also concerned about having 'residual ink' flying about behind the lens that might contaminate the sensor. I got one of those coders when I first got my M8 in 2008. It never worked for me, so I ignored it and got my lenses coded by DAG, or purchased Milich adapters. When I got a new factory coded 35mm Summicron, I laid the coder over the lens and found it was off by almost 1/2 mark. To make it work for my new 15mm lens (before I send it for permanent coding), I had to shave down one side of the "indexer". In use I apply a little clockwise pressure to the coder. Even then I don't apply ink through the coder to the lens flange...I use a small scratch awl to outline only the areas that will get black ink/paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 10, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 10, 2009 When I got a new factory coded 35mm Summicron, I laid the coder over the lens and found it was off by almost 1/2 mark. I used a similar coding device and had exactly the same problem, maybe I was unlucky. As far as I can see the only reliable way of getting thing lined up correctly would be to have a device that had a full lens mount that the lens could be 'clicked' into as it is when it's put on a body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 10, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 10, 2009 Yesterday I spoke with Malcolm Taylor who is in Herefordshire and he will happily code M lenses. Malcolm does very high quality work and the turnaround time is likely to be shorter than Solms, DAG, Sherry Krauter etc. Malcolm doesn't use email so you would have to ring him at the number below: Malcolm Taylor Upper Lye Farm Aymestrey Leominster Herefordshire HR6 9SZ (United Kingdom) 01568 770 542. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Baker Posted October 11, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 11, 2009 Yesterday I spoke with Malcolm Taylor who is in Herefordshire and he will happily code M lenses. Malcolm does very high quality work and the turnaround time is likely to be shorter than Solms, DAG, Sherry Krauter etc. Malcolm doesn't use email so you would have to ring him at the number below: Malcolm Taylor Upper Lye Farm Aymestrey Leominster Herefordshire HR6 9SZ (United Kingdom) 01568 770 542. Pete. I completely agree with Pete, Malcolm properly milled several of my lenses in August, superb work and very reasonable too. Take a look at my post regarding his work on my lenses http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/96624-proper-milled-coding-m-lenses-uk.html Mark, have MK cut the price of coding? When I emailed them in July they quoted £120 per lens ! Perhaps they have learned of just how professional the job is that Malcolm does and how reasonable too Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted October 12, 2009 I'll speak with Leica UK and Malcolm today. I just wonder about the effect on resale value of lenses not coded by Leica. Any views? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted October 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 12, 2009 I used the coder without problems. I marked the lens mount and then used a Dremel to carefully mill out the appropriate slots. I then painted these black/white with enamel paint. Everything works fine and the 'felt-tip' ink doesn't wear off. ___________________ Regards, Tom Photography by Tom Lane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted October 12, 2009 Not been able to reach Malcolm but Leica UK will call me when they get the relevant parts (week to 10 days) and as I live in MK they will do it while I wait for £145. Not exactly cheap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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