hammam Posted September 16, 2009 Share #41 Posted September 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Only on the LUF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Hi hammam, Take a look here What would you like changed before the X1 is released?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
nhabedi Posted September 16, 2009 Share #42 Posted September 16, 2009 PS. Grid display? Are you kidding? But, yes, it seems it'll also have grid display. See the last photo here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted September 16, 2009 Share #43 Posted September 16, 2009 Distance markers and tabs on the lens to enable zone focusing, and the ability to manually focus by turning a ring on the lens itself (a-la Digilux 1) would be all I need to make this camera perfect. (Okay, and an optical viewfinder built-in instead of the flash). Yeah, there probably will be something similar in the menu/LCD, but you lose the tactilility. Focusing using a thumbwheel also has a similar dissonance. It's the reason why I never got on with the D-Lux 3 and sold it off but kept the Digilux 2, which has AMAZING ergonomics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted September 16, 2009 Share #44 Posted September 16, 2009 Or perhaps they can just copy my Olympus Trip and put in a simple 4-step lever to choose typical focal distance settings. All I need is just the classic 8-feet focus lock for street photography, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinal Posted September 16, 2009 Share #45 Posted September 16, 2009 How about filter threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusto Posted September 16, 2009 Share #46 Posted September 16, 2009 A built in optical viewfinder PLEASE! I, for one cannot shoot with and camera held out in front of my head. Call me old fashioned - fine , but the attachable fiewfinder, although no doubt of fine quality also prevents the 'pocket camera' concept from being practical in my opinion. As a former shooter with the original Contax-T I long for something similar but digital and the X1 would come awfully close but for the above mentioned omission of an OVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnastovall Posted September 17, 2009 Share #47 Posted September 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I really would need either interchangeable lenses or, alternatively, a zoom. At this price point, a fixed focus lens is too limiting. Image stabilization would be good, and the accessory finder perhaps should be a built-in component, but the lens --no matter how good optically-- is a deal killer for me, at least for this type of camera. It appears to have image stabilization. See this site. And the screen I would find a zoom a deal killer for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnastovall Posted September 17, 2009 Share #48 Posted September 17, 2009 Distance markers and tabs on the lens to enable zone focusing, and the ability to manually focus by turning a ring on the lens itself (a-la Digilux 1) would be all I need to make this camera perfect. (Okay, and an optical viewfinder built-in instead of the flash). Yeah, there probably will be something similar in the menu/LCD, but you lose the tactilility. Focusing using a thumbwheel also has a similar dissonance. It's the reason why I never got on with the D-Lux 3 and sold it off but kept the Digilux 2, which has AMAZING ergonomics. You can have zone focusing display on the LCD as the Ricoh GR-DII does. With a little practice it works just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted September 17, 2009 Share #49 Posted September 17, 2009 You can have zone focusing display on the LCD as the Ricoh GR-DII does. With a little practice it works just fine. Yes. I do so miss my late Ricoh -- took it into a rainforest and it promptly died under a light drizzle. The step focus feature is okay. But I have an analogue brain, is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puigvert Posted September 17, 2009 Share #50 Posted September 17, 2009 As Leica has designed, I consider it as the fabulous compact camera: APS sensor (low noise level and acceptable quality), fixed lens 36 mm 2.8 (good quality at an affordable price), no viewfinder (lower price) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted September 19, 2009 Share #51 Posted September 19, 2009 Having happily owned an Olympus XA, I believe that I understand the concept behind the Leica X1. It is one thing to discuss how the camera should be designed, and another to consider to what standard the design goals should be implemented. I would be disappointed to turn on a production Leica X1 and find that its LCD display is not as detailed as that of a Leica D-Lux 4, released roughly a year earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 19, 2009 Share #52 Posted September 19, 2009 Two suggestions for manual focus improvement easily doable by firmware programming: 1. Fast manual focus operation for street photography: A buttom would jump to the hyperfocal distance, for your selected aperture. 2. Clasical DoF markings simulation: On the LCD you get a line with the distance scale (from 0 to infinity). Then, a mark points to the selected focus distance, AND two additional marks (at the left and to the right) point to the limits of the DoF for the selected aperture and distance. In this way you can select a hyperfocal distance, or a particular DoF range (for instance, from 1m to 5 m). Then, turn the LCD off and make pictures. This is not in the current firmware of the camera. The menus are a little complex. Not as simple and clean than those of the M8/M9. It is some odd mix of the menus of a Panasonic and the M8. Too many "direct access" buttons (at the left of the screen, on the 4 buttons into the wheel...). A simpler and cleaner design would have been better. The letters and numbers on the wheels and buttons are painted, not engraved. I don't like that on the buttons' surface either. It is a better solution to have it engraved on the camera's surface, avoiding erosion due to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurometallo Posted September 19, 2009 Share #53 Posted September 19, 2009 I just don't like the retractable lens: Honestly that's what kept me for preordering this beautiful camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 20, 2009 Share #54 Posted September 20, 2009 I just don't like the retractable lens: Honestly that's what kept me for preordering this beautiful camera... It is very solid, and it has a macro mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
like_no_other Posted September 20, 2009 Share #55 Posted September 20, 2009 It appears to have image stabilization. See this site. And the screen I would find a zoom a deal killer for me. Thanks for that link. One of the pictures on the Spanish site shows a menue 'external viewfinder on/off'. ('Visor ext off') in the third last picture of the page I'm surprised because that should mean that there is at least electronic communication between the body and the viewfinder. This would make sense if it is an electronic viewfinder. Wasn't the general opinion that it's an optical external viewfinder without communication? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 20, 2009 Share #56 Posted September 20, 2009 One of the pictures on the Spanish site shows a menue 'external viewfinder on/off'.('Visor ext off') in the third last picture of the page I'm surprised because that should mean that there is at least electronic communication between the body and the viewfinder. If there were electronic communication between the finder and the camera, there'd be no need to tell the camera about the presence of a viewfinder via a menu setting, right? I would think this menu entry controls the LCD, i.e. the LCD will behave differently depending on the setting. If "external viewfinder - on" is selected, the LCD will probably be off most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 20, 2009 Share #57 Posted September 20, 2009 If there were electronic communication between the finder and the camera, there'd be no need to tell the camera about the presence of a viewfinder via a menu setting, right? I would think this menu entry controls the LCD, i.e. the LCD will behave differently depending on the setting. If "external viewfinder - on" is selected, the LCD will probably be off most of the time. Right! That is the function of the menu... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted September 20, 2009 Share #58 Posted September 20, 2009 I would like to see a means to attach something like the Hoodman lens in front of the LCD monitor. A revolution would be to skip these optical viewfinders from the product planning totally, Of course especially in case of a zoomlens (Digilux-4!). Viewfinders only suggest a comparision with the M series. Instead I would like to see an electronic viewfinder connected and giving the same image as the LCD monitor. Imagine, all controlls steadily visible, no parallax, an illusion of the coming picture, a two-dimensional view, a better handling of the camera. Viewfinders were the means to keep the IIIf alife and that is long ago. LCD monitors on the other hand show to elder people, that their arms are getting shorter. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhayat Posted September 24, 2009 Share #59 Posted September 24, 2009 Now that I think about it, I know why I'm not so fond of a retracting lens: my Ricoh GRD had one, and I really didn't care for the noise it made whenever you switch it on in a quiet auditorium or event. Also, the lens retracts whenever it goes on sleep mode, and there is a definite lag to get ready for shooting again. I never did get the balance right between conserving battery life and having the camera ready to shoot while on the streets. I'm guessing Leica could have made the lens non-retractable and the size of the M Elmarit 28mm, but then it would be a different camera altogether, wouldn't it, though personally I wouldn't mind it. As it is, though, seems we're stuck with the X1 so that is what I will be getting as my travel camera to replace my Olympus EP-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 24, 2009 Share #60 Posted September 24, 2009 Also, the lens retracts whenever it goes on sleep mode The lens on the X1 won't do that. I checked with Leica and they confirmed that it'll only retract when the camera is turned off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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