scott kirkpatrick Posted September 10, 2009 Share #1  Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've checked out tomorrow's release of Capture One 4.8.3 (a service release), and it can open M9 files. There are two sorts of M9 DNG files floating around the forums -- those direct from an M9, which will have size 17.4 MB if they are 2x compressed, and those which have been read first by ACR and compressed to various sizes usually less than 10 MB.  COne 4.8.3 opens the first with a first pass M9 generic profile which can still be a little reddish in the Caucasian skin tones, but it is a starting point. When I look at the WhiteBalance parameters that you get inside a camera store, as in my two examples, they come up at 2800K and a magenta shift of about 12 units. Reducing the magenta, raising the color temperature a bit, just as I have often done with the M8, fixes the skintones. Using a Jamie Roberts profile is also known to help.  When COne reads in an ACR compressed DNG, it assigns it to the "neutral dng profile." which is not as good. Apparently there has already been some color transformation applied, so do not make the mistake of forcing the file into the Leica M9 generic profile -- the results can be spectacularly wrong, with neon red faces. I think Jamie Roberts has already discovered this.  > Capture One 4.8.3 includes: > > - Bugfixes > > o Mac: Improved compatibility with Snow Leopard. > > o Mac: Fixed issue causing out of memory in certain circumstances. > > - Image Quality Improvements > > o Improved P65+ and P40+ image quality for some shooting conditions. > > o Improvement of default import DNG colors. > > - Added camera support > > o Leica M9. > > o Canon 500D/Rebel T1i. >  Here are two examples from this forum which seem "good enough for government work," at least: I didn't adjust the color balance -- they are just as they came up in 4.8.3.  scott Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/96232-capture-one-483-supports-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1027938'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hi scott kirkpatrick, Take a look here Capture One 4.8.3 supports M9. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sean_reid Posted September 10, 2009 Share #2 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Great news, thanks Scott. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2009 Share #3 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Ahhh Scott!! Â I don't know how you did this but thanks. That second example, especially, looks so much more like C1 and an M to my eyes than the LR version (with no adjustment) it isn't funny. Â BTW--are you saying my IR reducing M8 profiles helped the M9 in this newest C1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #4 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Ahhh Scott!! Â I don't know how you did this but thanks. That second example, especially, looks so much more like C1 and an M to my eyes than the LR version (with no adjustment) it isn't funny. Â BTW--are you saying my IR reducing M8 profiles helped the M9 in this newest C1? Â Not yet. The M9 is a different beast than the M8. New pixels, new red filters, etc. But I am hoping that we will see something soon. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_S Posted September 10, 2009 Share #5 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Phase One just released CO 4.8.3. I believe it supports both the compressed and non-compressed M9 DNG files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted September 10, 2009 Share #6 Â Posted September 10, 2009 You can download the 4.8.3 from their website now. Just did. Â ttp://www.phaseone.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2009 Share #7  Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes--I did too--thanks Thorsten....  Can I just say that it looks like if you open up the DNGs in LR it does "something" to them that doesn't let C1 recognize them as M9 files?  Is that possible?  I'm looking at Chris T's shots and they will not accept the M9 profile in C1 4.8.3 (only the inferior neutral DNG profile) and the faces look just terrible.  BUT if I use the DNGs that I couldn't open previously, then the color and skin looks very very much improved given the crappy light!  Right out of C1--standard M8 processing...skin tones are alright in general; red is still red (not orange) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   But there's something still blotchy in the skin (that's not a skin issue--look at the yellow there...weird)...  Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   But there's something still blotchy in the skin (that's not a skin issue--look at the yellow there...weird)...  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/96232-capture-one-483-supports-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1028224'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 10, 2009 Share #8 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Ahhh Scott!! Â I don't know how you did this but thanks. That second example, especially, looks so much more like C1 and an M to my eyes than the LR version (with no adjustment) it isn't funny. Â BTW--are you saying my IR reducing M8 profiles helped the M9 in this newest C1? Â Jamie, Â Take a look at the IR section of my M9 review. I think new profiles from you might come in handy with the mild amount of IR color shift one will sometimes see with the M9. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2009 Share #9  Posted September 10, 2009 Jamie, Take a look at the IR section of my M9 review. I think new profiles from you might come in handy with the mild amount of IR color shift one will sometimes see with the M9.  Cheers,  Sean  Will do Sean...  I'll have to get an M9 first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorp Posted September 10, 2009 Share #10 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Aperture estimate is back ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #11 Â Posted September 10, 2009 Aperture estimate is back ! Â Yes! There was some backchannel discussion between PhaseOne and the folks from this forum who figured that out a year or so ago. We identified the bug that had been making 4.8.1's information look strange at large f-stops, and it is now fixed in 4.8.3. But this is only for the M8. The information you need to do aperture estimation is hidden very differently in the M9 raw files. The M9 still has a blue dot, so it must be there somewhere. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyphoto Posted September 11, 2009 Share #12  Posted September 11, 2009 Yes--I did too--thanks Thorsten.... Can I just say that it looks like if you open up the DNGs in LR it does "something" to them that doesn't let C1 recognize them as M9 files?  Is that possible?  I'm looking at Chris T's shots and they will not accept the M9 profile in C1 4.8.3 (only the inferior neutral DNG profile) and the faces look just terrible.  BUT if I use the DNGs that I couldn't open previously, then the color and skin looks very very much improved given the crappy light!  Right out of C1--standard M8 processing...skin tones are alright in general; red is still red (not orange)    But there's something still blotchy in the skin (that's not a skin issue--look at the yellow there...weird)...    Yes. LR did something with M9 DNG. This is the reply I got from phaseone forum  "CO 4.8.3 just released; supports Leica M9 DNG. First impression is both compressed and non-compressed M9 files are supported. DNG files that already received an ACR treatment will be opened with the DNG File Neutral profile, which is not as good as the M9 profile (obviously). Assign the M9 profile manually."  kitty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismoto Posted September 11, 2009 Share #13 Â Posted September 11, 2009 Thank you for these examples! I guess that the tow sale person are getting famous now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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