pipeclayed Posted September 10, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all I'm thinking of purchasing an M6 - have seen some fairly good prices and am waiting to find one that's irresistible. The problem is that I am stretching my budget a little with the camera. I'll probably end up selling a DSLR lens or two to get it. But then my dream lens is the 35mm asph. Obviously that's more than the camera... So I was wondering if anyone could recommend a suitable alternative until I can afford the Leica lens? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joachim123 Posted September 10, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 10, 2009 Dig a little deeper and get the 35mm You will not regret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted September 10, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 10, 2009 .......................... " a suitable alternative until I can afford the Leica lens? " Be patient and wait till you can get the Summicron. As Joachim says, you won't regret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted September 10, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 10, 2009 Why are you dreaming about the aspherical version ? 12 x 16 inch prints in mind perhaps ? The results I got when I had an M6 (and how I regret selling it, with a replacement unaffordable now) with just a f2.8 Summaron were excellent. There are some examples of a 35mm Summaron photos at http://www.pbase.com/cameras/leitz/35_28_summaron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 10, 2009 Azzo is right about being patient... but if you find YOUR M6 NOW, and haven't the money for the Summicron asph... what to do ? I suppose you haven't another lens: so, being practical, i see 2 possibilities : 1) Buy a cheap non-35 : typically, a 50... why not an old Elmar 50 SM with adapter ? Lot of them available, pleasant classic lens, and you probably won't throw it away when will buy the SummiAsph... 2) Buy a cheap 35 (Summaron 35 2,8, the best Leitz 35 for value, or a CV...) planning to resell it when Summicron Asph will arrive... you'll lose few money, maybe close to zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted September 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 10, 2009 How about a CV 35 Pancake II? I have one and it is superb, comparing favrouably to my Zeiss 35 Biogon a stop or so down. Wide open it is sharp, but vignetting is more pronounced. It is tiny, light and $319 new. There are fewer QC complaints with this lens than the 21/25s and I for one am using it as my main walkabout lens despite owning the biogon. Don't swallow what you hear from some about the awful bokeh - I tests it absolutely side by side my biogon and it was only very and I mean very, slightly less smooth than the Biogon (which has a rep for being very smooth). If you need F2, consider a used Biogon f2 or 2.8 (smaller) for about $600. Saving up for an asph is all very well and good, but not taking pics in the meantime is kinda missing the point IMHO. Make no mistake, the little CV is capable of some seriously good results. I would not be shooting the project of a lifetime with one were this not the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 10, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Get your M6 and a s/h 35 f2.5 Skopar (I like the 'classic' version in thread mount - just get an LTM/M adaptor to use it on your M). It's a great little lens and you will probably want to keep it even when you can afford the Summicron - or if you sell you won't lose any money on it. I think this image demonstrates how well it copes in difficult lighting and flare resistance. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/96139-m6-which-lens/?do=findComment&comment=1026996'>More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted September 11, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 11, 2009 Buy cheap, buy twice .... I would not buy anything else if the 35/2.0 ASPH is your dream lens. Better wait and save some money until you can afford one. The lens is responsible for the photo not the light-tight film-box (camera) holding it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetooth Posted September 11, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 11, 2009 if you can deal with a 50mm . buy a 50mm summicron classic leica look and it won't break your bank . plus it's a versatile starter lens . i would recommend to not getting a summaron unless you are looking for that classic old leica look . also the 3.5 i own is prone to flare with out a hood . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetooth Posted September 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 11, 2009 have you consider buying a less expensive camera ( but still a m mount ) and buying the lens you want ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 11, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 11, 2009 Congratulations on the M6 choice, it's an excellent camera! While everyone is raving on about the M9, it's worth remembering that film Leicas are capable of the finest results (It's just the photogs that have to live up to the gear.) I agree the 35 ASPH is terrific -- so is the 24 ASPH with a separate finder. And the 90 and the 135. And...and... But I'd agree with the previous poster and go for the classic 50 Summicron. Its a fine performer, brilliant low light, very versatile (for landscapes, people, and just being out and about), it's ultra sharp -- and affordable. Definitely a good first lend for the M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted September 11, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 11, 2009 Buy cheap, buy twice .... I would not buy anything else if the 35/2.0 ASPH is your dream lens. Better wait and save some money until you can afford one. The lens is responsible for the photo not the light-tight film-box (camera) holding it. Sure.... but all the time you are saving you are missing photos that can't be replaced. If you buy an interim lens used you will lose nothing when you sell it if you buy wisely. Even if you buy a new CV 35 you will at most lose about $100 if you keep it mint, less than the variance in prices for a used 35 asph.... I also beg to differ on the light tight box bit, because having the right camera (for you) helps point the lens on the front of the light tight box in the right direction at the right time with the right exposure. That bit is quite important (getting the shot at all). I bought into Leica for the M bodies, not the lenses (and own CV, ZM and Leica lenses). The guy is saving up! What's with giving him a bill got about $5K with the 35 cron and 24 elmarit asphs that he just has to have?... a photo shot with a CV lens while you are saving up is always better than one shot on a Leica lens you don't yet own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipeclayed Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted September 11, 2009 Thank you all for your replies, I will have a careful read through over the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 11, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 11, 2009 There is something to be said for buying a cheaper body and a more expensive lens - you could buy an older battered M2 or a Voigtlander for example, but there won't be that much difference in price between an M2 and M6 and whilst the Voigtlander will work you will lose money when you trade it and it just doesn't feel the same as a Leica. I disagree that the body doesn't matter. Yes Leica make fantastic glass but they also make fantastic mechanical cameras that last a lifetime. Get a nice M6 and you won't ever need another camera. So onto the lens. Go without a lens until you can afford a Summicron? What nonsense! Buy a s/h Voigtlander for about £150 and enjoy it. If you do decide to upgrade later you will sell it for £150. It really is a no brainer. The other option is an older 5cm 3.5 Elmar - a truly amazing little lens as long as you find a nice clean and coated one, the M fit or later Red Scale screw lenses are best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovyone Posted September 11, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 11, 2009 Glad I joined this forum. I had the exact same question as the op. Thanks for the advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingmac Posted September 16, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 16, 2009 I want to ask some more questions about the lens? Im really new to Leica and looking forward to get an M6. 1. What does ASPH stand for? 2. Why 35mm lens is more popular than others, why many people recommended that? I just feel that 50mm lens is more popular for other kinds of camera or SLR camera. 3. Where can i explore more about what the differences among many M lens? 4. If i have a chance to choose one first. Which one should i get first between body and lens? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubenkok Posted September 16, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 16, 2009 Hi mingmac, 1. What does ASPH stand for? Aspheric - Aspheric lens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 2. Why 35mm lens is more popular than others, why many people recommended that? I just feel that 50mm lens is more popular for other kinds of camera or SLR camera. Leica M: Advanced Photo School Author: Gunter Osterloh in here all the answers to your questions ISBN: 9781579906375 3. Where can i explore more about what the differences among many M lens? Leica M-Lenses Their soul and secrets Leica M Lens Users Guide Older M lenses 4. If i have a chance to choose one first. Which one should i get first between body and lens? How to choose M Hope this is some help, regards Ruben Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/96139-m6-which-lens/?do=findComment&comment=1038106'>More sharing options...
kenneth Posted September 16, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 16, 2009 Buy cheap, buy twice .... I would not buy anything else if the 35/2.0 ASPH is your dream lens. Better wait and save some money until you can afford one. The lens is responsible for the photo not the light-tight film-box (camera) holding it. Well put great advise. But James that was a nice shot with your Cosina Voigtlander lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingmac Posted September 17, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 17, 2009 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Thank you very much rubenkok. That is really helpful for me, i need to learn something more about this amazing camera. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 17, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 17, 2009 Well put great advise. But James that was a nice shot with your Cosina Voigtlander lens Thank you Kenneth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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