ho_co Posted October 2, 2009 Share #141 Posted October 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) There is a price difference, and a size difference. The target market has to be different as well. Price, size and market indeed. And I do like the enthusiasm (engineering term? ) of that rather steep blue line Stefan showed at the X1's Tokyo introduction (http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20090914_315599.html): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95952-where-is-x1-made/?do=findComment&comment=1058323'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Hi ho_co, Take a look here Where is X1 made?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gabbott4 Posted October 2, 2009 Share #142 Posted October 2, 2009 On that chart, does there appear to be a conspicuous gap between the X1 and the M8.2? George Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabbott4 Posted October 2, 2009 Share #143 Posted October 2, 2009 Rubén, I've never seen the appeal of the Ricoh GR-Ds and the other 'tween cameras, but apparently a lot of people like the concept. Maybe Leica's target audience is partly that crowd. So far, those cameras have all gotten good reviews for image quality but very poor marks for functionality. Maybe Leica is working with one of those manufacturers to clear up the bits that don't work right. When I first started applying myself to photography, I would work with a single lens for a day or a week, just to get the feel of seeing like that lens. Maybe the X1 could also be approached as a way to learn, or a way to refresh the juices. I'll be curious to see who the early adopters are when it comes to market. (Similarly, in The Online Photographer: The Leica as Teacher, Mike Johnston recently recommended that the best way to learn photography is to use nothing but a single lens on a film M camera for a year.) Howard, You've just described my intentions. I liken the X1 to my sand wedge...a club that I've learned to hit a wide variety of shots with only because I practice with it a lot. The more I use it, the better I get. I plan to achieve that same familiarity with the X1. George Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 2, 2009 Share #144 Posted October 2, 2009 Who the X1 is aimed at? The typical user of compact cameras? They have plenty of cheaper alternatives. This camera is aimed at the brand sensitive customer (differentiation based on brand), or at the photographer connoisseur of the Leica tradition looking for a compact camera in that tradition (differentiation based on handling, philosophy, principles). That differentiation justifies the also different (higher) price. Well Leica themselves mentioned a new camera for newcomers to Leica or words to that effect, before the X1 was announced. It is safe to assume that it's aimed at photographers wanting to upgrade from a small sensor P&S like the Canon G cameras, so they've kept the layout and design roughly the same as the industry norm, and LCD 'viewfinder' and buttons and wheels for the controls. Of course it's going to appeal to Leica fanantics too, just a the Dlux has, but it's aimed at bringing new customers to Leica who will in time probably want to upgrade further to the M series. Well that's my opinion of it anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnastovall Posted October 2, 2009 Share #145 Posted October 2, 2009 On that chart, does there appear to be a conspicuous gap between the X1 and the M8.2? George Think X2 in a few years.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
razerx Posted October 9, 2009 Share #146 Posted October 9, 2009 On that chart, does there appear to be a conspicuous gap between the X1 and the M8.2? George There used to be an M8 there but was airbrushed out by former Stasi political revisionists now living in the West. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 11, 2009 Share #147 Posted October 11, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pardon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted October 11, 2009 Share #148 Posted October 11, 2009 ActillCocatob has posted a link to a pornography site. The "3" in the URL stands for "triple," as if "single" were not bad enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted October 11, 2009 Share #149 Posted October 11, 2009 Oh, well. I guess he figures it's a good way to while away the time while awaiting the X1 delivery. Thanks for the warning, cef!. And I think I'll retract my warm and sincere welcome to the forum as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 11, 2009 Share #150 Posted October 11, 2009 Can you do us a favour guys? Next time you see a first post like that, just report it as one of us will deal with it thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted October 11, 2009 Share #151 Posted October 11, 2009 Andy, So that's what the little triangle with the vertical bar is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted October 12, 2009 Share #152 Posted October 12, 2009 Rubén, I've never seen the appeal of the Ricoh GR-Ds and the other 'tween cameras, but apparently a lot of people like the concept. Maybe Leica's target audience is partly that crowd. So far, those cameras have all gotten good reviews for image quality but very poor marks for functionality. Maybe Leica is working with one of those manufacturers to clear up the bits that don't work right. Howard, I have experience of the GRD and GX200. Both of these cameras has superb ergonomics which I have often felt Leica users would appreciate. However, each one has the drawbacks shared by small sensor compacts. I rather hope that the X1 will solve that problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted October 13, 2009 Share #153 Posted October 13, 2009 Gee, Andy! I hadn't even noticed the warning triangle! Glad you mentioned it, cef! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted October 13, 2009 Share #154 Posted October 13, 2009 ho_co, It is a tribute to the generally high standard of behavior in these forums that you have made thousands of postings without knowing where the “report this post” feature is. I had thought that the little triangle with the vertical bar was something that would make sense to an autobahn driver, and that I did not need to know about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted October 13, 2009 Share #155 Posted October 13, 2009 I had thought that the little triangle with the vertical bar was something that would make sense to an autobahn driver, and that I did not need to know about it. It's a standardized sign which should be known in at least 54 different countries: Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Sadly, as with lots of international conventions, the US doesn't seem to take part, so a good part of the readers of this forum might not be familiar with the sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted October 13, 2009 Share #156 Posted October 13, 2009 nhabedi, Thank you for posting the link to the Vienna Convention signs. I have not travelled outside of the US and Canada (three bicycle tours of Nova Scotia) and have never before encountered the triangle with the vertical bar, despite having an interest in graphic and industrial design and safety. (When I fell off a cliff in Nova Scotia, I was wearing an MSR helmet.) I have seen many instances of the “acceptable alternative” with the exclamation point shown at the bottom of the Wikipedia page. I may simply be a bit dense when it comes to interpreting unfamiliar signs. I spent my entire childhood believing that the “Thickly Settled” signs at the side of the roads on the way to the beach referred to high population density rather than lots of vegetation. If I had been required to make a guess about the sign with the triangle and the vertical bar if it were presented without any context, I would have assumed that it was a warning about unicycle ruts. You can just imagine my reaction to the interface on the Nikon Coolpix 5000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Ortego Posted October 14, 2009 Share #157 Posted October 14, 2009 Error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ho_co Posted November 26, 2009 Share #159 Posted November 26, 2009 From German forum http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/forum-zur-leica-x1/98885-x1-made-germany-2.html#post1135202 a picture from http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/331/499/html/010.jpg.html. (Interesting that a picture of a camera "Made in Germany" comes from Japan... ) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95952-where-is-x1-made/?do=findComment&comment=1131873'>More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 26, 2009 Share #160 Posted November 26, 2009 Perhaps because it is manufactured in Japan and assembled in Germany! I have heard a rumor as to who makes it for Leica but given my source I won't repeat it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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