jasoniburn Posted August 31, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 31, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) So I loaned a M8 this weekend and have decided to take the plunge. I have thought about these two as an starting setup. M8 and 28mm Summicron. I'll be shooting mainly landscapes/cityscapes and a few of my kids. Should I buy the Summicron or get maybe a couple of cheaper used lenses. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArtZ Posted August 31, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 31, 2009 So I loaned a M8 this weekend and have decided to take the plunge. I have thought about these two as an starting setup. M8 and 28mm Summicron. I'll be shooting mainly landscapes/cityscapes and a few of my kids. Should I buy the Summicron or get maybe a couple of cheaper used lenses. Thanks Jason, If I were you, I will wait a few days more in order to see what September can offer us... In fact, depending on full frame and croped frame the choice of lenses may differ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 31, 2009 If you do want a 50 and don't want to spend a whole lot of money, consider the little collapsible Elmar-M (latest version) as an addition to the Summicron 28. Not only is it a first-class lens, it turns your M8 into a camera you can slip into your pocket. On the other hand, if you want a single lens, consider the Summicron 35, asph or earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoniburn Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted August 31, 2009 Jason, If I were you, I will wait a few days more in order to see what September can offer us... In fact, depending on full frame and croped frame the choice of lenses may differ... I have the chance of a mint used M8 for 1800 pounds so was hoping to hop on it soon. Not sure I'll have the thousands needed for new stuff like the M8.2 or the rumored M9. So will probably get the body. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 31, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 31, 2009 What camera and lens combination do you use most often currently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoniburn Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted August 31, 2009 What camera and lens combination do you use most often currently? I use a 1D MKIII and love my 17-40 L. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 31, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 31, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Forgive my ignorance of things Canon, but I assume that's 35mm equivalent lens lengths? If so, I would recommend a 28mm on the M8. It gives you roughly the same focal length as the top end of your zoom. If you normally use the bottom end of the zoom, you are going to need to look at the Voigtlander or Zeiss offers in the mid-teens focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted August 31, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 31, 2009 I'll be shooting mainly landscapes/cityscapes and a few of my kids. Thanks If you're getting the M8 and are interested in these areas, then a 28 (which gives you an effective 35mm FOV on this body) should suit your needs. The Summicron Asph is bigger than some of the Leica lenses but is a wonderful thing. Otherwise many have reported that the Elmarit is an excellent choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 31, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 31, 2009 If you don't need the extra f-stop, I would buy the Elmarit. It is a great little lens. Exactly half the price of the cron also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 31, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 31, 2009 Do also consider where you go next. The classical M two-lens kit has been 35+90mm for half a century, and you can indeed handle some 98 percent of all shooting opportunities with these two. In M8 terms, that would be 28+75mm, and the 75mm Summarit is really good. If you need something wider (later, maybe) you may decide to go Zeiss. The old man from the Age of the M2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted August 31, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 31, 2009 Jason, you hint at a ceiling on your budget. In which case I would strongly recommend the 28mm Elmarit (latest) and in due course the 75mm Summarit. Frankly you could cover most needs with these two lenses. With the Elmarit fitted the camera is remarkably compact for 'walk-about' and touring photography. The 75mm is brilliant for portraits and landscape details. Good luck and enjoy the M experience! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 31, 2009 If you don't need the extra f-stop, I would buy the Elmarit. It is a great little lens. Exactly half the price of the cron also. Jason, you hint at a ceiling on your budget. In which case I would strongly recommend the 28mm Elmarit (latest) and in due course the 75mm Summarit. Frankly you could cover most needs with these two lenses. With the Elmarit fitted the camera is remarkably compact for 'walk-about' and touring photography. The 75mm is brilliant for portraits and landscape details. Good luck and enjoy the M experience! +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 31, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 31, 2009 Here is a guy that has done some comparism between the 28 Elmarit and Summicron: Leica 28mm f/2 Summicron-M ASPH You might find his language slightly arrogant, but it seems as he has done a pretty decent technical review. You could also have a look at Sean Reids comprehensive reviews, he's considered the guru when it comes to lens reviews, but they come with a (small) cost Welcome to ReidReviews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted August 31, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 31, 2009 So I loaned a M8 this weekend and have decided to take the plunge. I have thought about these two as an starting setup. M8 and 28mm Summicron. I'll be shooting mainly landscapes/cityscapes and a few of my kids. Should I buy the Summicron or get maybe a couple of cheaper used lenses. Thanks Hi Jason Don't forget the little summarit lenses - I think they're great, good value as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 31, 2009 Share #15 Posted August 31, 2009 As I recall, you posted that you admired Steve Huff's work. He had great things to say about the little 28 Elmarit, which is a contrasty lens that seems to suit his style. It's small, light and inexpensive relative to the cron. I love my cron, but I don't think you need to spend the $. And, there really aren't any bad Leica lenses these days. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfspencer Posted August 31, 2009 Share #16 Posted August 31, 2009 If you don't need the extra f-stop, I would buy the Elmarit. It is a great little lens. Exactly half the price of the cron also. I bought the Elmarit because of price. I am very pleased with it. However, it does produce images with a lot more contrast than my 35mm and 50mm Summicron. I happen to like a lot of contrast. Some people don't care for that much contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted August 31, 2009 Share #17 Posted August 31, 2009 I use a 1D MKIII and love my 17-40 L. Ah! That's my DSLR setup too. Can't sell it as it provides the bread and butter stuff. If budget is under strain; why not combine with a Cosina Voigtlander 21mm f4 P type, 28mm f3.5 and a 40mm f1.4 Nokton. The 21 and the 40 are M bayonet mounts while the 28mm is Leica thread mount so you will need an adapter. You could get just the 21 and the 40. Zeiss too have a few really good ones. You could get the 21f2.8 and the 35f2.8. Of the above suggestions, I only have the 28f3.5 which is really excellent for the price paid. The negatives against the Cosina Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are : 1. Built quality might not be so great (CV) 2. You will need to 6 bit code the lenses to get the IR correction and vignetting to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted August 31, 2009 Share #18 Posted August 31, 2009 Here is a guy that has done some comparism between the 28 Elmarit and Summicron:Leica 28mm f/2 Summicron-M ASPH You might find his language slightly arrogant, but it seems as he has done a pretty decent technical review. You could also have a look at Sean Reids comprehensive reviews, he's considered the guru when it comes to lens reviews, but they come with a (small) cost Welcome to ReidReviews + to that suggestion Sean puts in a great deal of time and effort into making his reports comprehensive, far more than most other reviewer usually put in. Worth every cent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 31, 2009 Share #19 Posted August 31, 2009 The negatives against the Cosina Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are : 1. Built quality might not be so great (CV) 2. You will need to 6 bit code the lenses to get the IR correction and vignetting to work. Well... 1. In my experience (and I own several Leica & CV lenses), the build quality of the CVs, while sometimes slightly inferior to their Leica equivalents, is better than that of most of the Canon L lenses I also use. The main problem with CV lenses appears to be sample variability. Although I never got a lemon, I'd recommend testing different samples if you can. Actually, my only lens that needs to go back to the factory with a loose aperture ring after having been barely used is a Leica one... 2. Coding is needed to correct vignetting, not the IR issue, which can be set through the camera menu and does not require coding (as long as you have a UV/IR filter on, of course). Also, the most recent CV production batches (not sure this applies to all focal lenghts though), feature a recess in the lens mount, which makes hand coding very easy and permanent. Not sure whether this is the case for the latest Zeiss production lots, but it may well be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 31, 2009 Share #20 Posted August 31, 2009 It is indeed the case. My 25mm Distagon has one. But older versions may still be on some dealers' shelves, so check before buying. The old man from the Age of the Zeiss Tessar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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