fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Open Notice To Leica Camera Ag--if Anyone Returns A Black M8 To You Because Of Concerns About 8 Bit Color Depth, Banding, Magenta Cast Or Anything Else, Please Let Me Know Because I Will Buy It. I've Seen Enough Examples Of What The Camera Can Do In The Hands Of Photographers Who Know What They're Doing That I Will Gladly Take One As Is. THANK YOU, PS--Anybody out there got a black M8 they want to return? There have been so many complaints, somebody MUST have one. I want one of the originals--before any "fix" is applied. __ Brent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rob_x2004 Posted November 15, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 15, 2006 Sod off Brent get in line! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted November 15, 2006 Sod off Brent get in line! Bite me! I've already been in line for 8 months! ;-} Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 15, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 15, 2006 Brent call Sean at Camera West , tell him I sent you along. Maybe able to help you. I need a 55mm IR and a battery badly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivek Iyer Posted November 15, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 15, 2006 Brent, As much as I admire your eagerness, I have to ask- how many returned cameras would you buy? You have posted an open ended open notice here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share #6 Posted November 15, 2006 Brent, As much as I admire your eagerness, I have to ask- how many returned cameras would you buy? You have posted an open ended open notice here! Sorry. Guess I should have clarified I am only looking for one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share #7 Posted November 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Brent call Sean at Camera West , tell him I sent you along. Maybe able to help you. I need a 55mm IR and a battery badly Thanks, Guy. Not one of yours, I hope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbesz Posted November 15, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 15, 2006 Good to see another travelling against the flow (for a change). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 15, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 15, 2006 I still have a place in line i think. i just need the one i have for now, go for it. Tell Sean to call me if he needs me. Trust me he has my number, bought many things from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayh Posted November 15, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 15, 2006 I returned a black M8 to Popflash. Check with Tony. And I totally agree with you, if what you mean is 'Photographers who know what they are doing and can see very quickly that they should avoid any high ISO situations with bright lights of any sort, or any situation where people in the picture may be wearing black clothing with tacky synthetic fibers, and are basically cool with a $5000 camera that imposes these limitations." Open Notice To Leica Camera Ag--if Anyone Returns A Black M8 To You Because Of Concerns About 8 Bit Color Depth, Banding, Magenta Cast Or Anything Else, Please Let Me Know Because I Will Buy It. I've Seen Enough Examples Of What The Camera Can Do In The Hands Of Photographers Who Know What They're Doing That I Will Gladly Take One As Is. THANK YOU, PS--Anybody out there got a black M8 they want to return? There have been so many complaints, somebody MUST have one. I want one of the originals--before any "fix" is applied. __ Brent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 15, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 15, 2006 Clay there just work arounds for some of us, been doing that all my career but this one is a lot tougher to deal with. That by no means i don't want a leica fix. I been digital only for 12 years did you ever hear of a Kodak 420 23 thousand dollars and the files looked like it was snowing. LOL. Trying to figure how long a go that was anyone remember the Apple Quadro 840V was out that is when I started digital . PS 2.5 . Let me tell you we are light years ahead today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayh Posted November 15, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 15, 2006 Guy, you are right about the workarounds. I have been using computers since the dark ages, so I know workarounds, believe me. I just thought the tone in the post implied that people who knew what they were doing could make it work, and those who couldn't were, well, just a little dim. I definitely could make it work in a subset of situations, but I just couldn't justify the time and expense in finding workarounds when I have a completely working system right now that does not have this limitations. I am sincerely grateful to those of you who are on the bleeding edge here, and I will certainly benefit from your work in six months or a year when they get this thing firing on all cylinders. Good hunting. Clay there just work arounds for some of us, been doing that all my career but this one is a lot tougher to deal with. That by no means i don't want a leica fix. I been digital only for 12 years did you ever hear of a Kodak 420 23 thousand dollars and the files looked like it was snowing. LOL. Trying to figure how long a go that was anyone remember the Apple Quadro 840V was out that is when I started digital . PS 2.5 . Let me tell you we are light years ahead today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 15, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 15, 2006 I totally understand people not wanting to do the workarounds . You pay your money and expect it to work. So did I and the extra work and money is a PITA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 15, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 15, 2006 Open Notice To Leica Camera Ag--if Anyone Returns A Black M8 To You Because Of Concerns About 8 Bit Color Depth, Banding, Magenta Cast Or Anything Else, Please Let Me Know Because I Will Buy It. I've Seen Enough Examples Of What The Camera Can Do In The Hands Of Photographers Who Know What They're Doing That I Will Gladly Take One As Is. THANK YOU, PS--Anybody out there got a black M8 they want to return? There have been so many complaints, somebody MUST have one. I want one of the originals--before any "fix" is applied. __ Brent Try and see if Tony Rose still has any of the ones that were sent back to him. POPFLASH.COM - Cameras & Photographic Equipment Good luck, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 15, 2006 Share #15 Posted November 15, 2006 I returned a black M8 to Popflash. Check with Tony. And I totally agree with you, if what you mean is 'Photographers who know what they are doing and can see very quickly that they should avoid any high ISO situations with bright lights of any sort, or any situation where people in the picture may be wearing black clothing with tacky synthetic fibers, and are basically cool with a $5000 camera that imposes these limitations." Or, put more simply, people who are willing to use the filters for now. I do, however, understand entirely why you decided that the M8 wasn't worth your $5K given the current problems. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted November 15, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 15, 2006 Tony may have more returns than most, but that's because he sent out more M8's in a single day than most major cities received. And he had a list of twice as many buyers lined up for the next few shipments. I'm on that list, and if he gets 'em, I'll take mine, thank you. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share #17 Posted November 15, 2006 I returned a black M8 to Popflash. Check with Tony. And I totally agree with you, if what you mean is 'Photographers who know what they are doing and can see very quickly that they should avoid any high ISO situations with bright lights of any sort, or any situation where people in the picture may be wearing black clothing with tacky synthetic fibers, and are basically cool with a $5000 camera that imposes these limitations." Did you happen to see Sean's recent posts of his wedding images? Or Guy's photos? Just a couple of examples. There have been many, many others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Brittenson Posted November 15, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 15, 2006 I'd personally take a return, but only if it comes with the same full passport warranty, warranty extension offer, and lens conversion offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share #19 Posted November 15, 2006 Try and see if Tony Rose still has any of the ones that were sent back to him. POPFLASH.COM - Cameras & Photographic Equipment Good luck, Sean Thanks, Sean. I just emailed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 15, 2006 Share #20 Posted November 15, 2006 I would be on the phone and call some dealers to see what is up . Hunts Photo maybe a source also . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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