jimleicam3 Posted July 28, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone used the new Canon 270 EX Flash with the M8. It has a very compact size, and it can swivel & tilt. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bradhusick Posted July 28, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 28, 2009 Yes, I have. It works beautifully as long as you put the M8 in flash shutter speed and manually set the aperture to match the lighting requirements. The output of the 270 is constant so you're basically in manual mode. The tilt/bounce is really nice and the flash is compact. It's much better than the harsh light you get from the Leica flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimleicam3 Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted August 7, 2009 Does the Speedlite come with a aperture/ISO chart? Or are you just using trial and error? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhow Posted August 7, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 7, 2009 How about the 430EX II? Any guidance on how to use it successfully on the M8 would be highly appreciated. Thanks! Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted August 7, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 7, 2009 Has anyone used the new Canon 270 EX Flash with the M8. It has a very compact size, and it can swivel & tilt. Thanks No. But I use my one of my Canon 550EX together with my M8. Works on 'Manual'. Just adjust aperture to fix the right exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimleicam3 Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted August 7, 2009 I use a 580 on my M8, but the thing weighs a ton, that is why I have been looking at the 270 EX. However, it does not seem to have a manual mode. On my 580 I use the manual mode. Thanks for all your help. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteland Posted August 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been experimenting with a very old Cobra Auto210. I wasn't sure about using my Canon 580 or 430's due to the additional flash contacts? The Cobra has a single central trigger contact on the foot. Its very small, has a bounce head and auto sensor - oh yes and it was free The look-up table on the back of the flash doesn't quite relate to the M8s sensitivity but it’s pretty easy to adjust the output via changing aperture and checking the histogram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
francishmt Posted August 11, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 11, 2009 Yes, I have. It works beautifully as long as you put the M8 in flash shutter speed and manually set the aperture to match the lighting requirements. The output of the 270 is constant so you're basically in manual mode. The tilt/bounce is really nice and the flash is compact. It's much better than the harsh light you get from the Leica flash. Can you please clarify this? I wanted to use the 270EX on my M8.2 as well. So after I set my SS and aperture on the camera (say, F5.6 1/250), how do I get the flash to output light properly? Or, am I supposed to get the technical details from teh 270EX (ie. flash duration of 1/200, F5.6 at ISO 160) and feed these as input into the M8.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted August 11, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 11, 2009 Can you please clarify this? I wanted to use the 270EX on my M8.2 as well. So after I set my SS and aperture on the camera (say, F5.6 1/250), how do I get the flash to output light properly? Or, am I supposed to get the technical details from teh 270EX (ie. flash duration of 1/200, F5.6 at ISO 160) and feed these as input into the M8.2? Set the M8 to it's 'x' setting (, or slower shutter speed if the ambient light permits, and if you prefer to do such), determine the correct aperture to use from the flash (Either by setting the flash to a chosen option, or by calculating the aperture by using the guide number & subject distance) , and then set your lens to that aperture. You mustn't use a shutter-speed faster than the 'x' setting, as otherwise you will only illuminate a section of the image, so please don't try 1/250th on an M8.2 unless you are aiming for a special effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
francishmt Posted August 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2009 What is the "x" setting? So if I wanted to go 1/60th, F4.0 @ ISO320, then I simply set the camera to the above settings and the 270EX to F4.0? I think I am still missing something (ie. is there a limit as to what aperture I can use with the flash)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jev Posted August 11, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 11, 2009 Can you post some sample photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimleicam3 Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted August 11, 2009 I just purchased the 270 EX this past weekend, and I am in the process of making an exposure chart. It is done very unsceintific, I am using a measured distance, 1/250th, and I am using the range of f stops.then I see on the computer what exposure looks the best. I am doing this for a couple of distances. The reason is that I really only use a flash at night in group situations(parties etc). Granted I will need to make some adjustments depending on how well or poorly the room is lighted. So my goal is to look at a person, with the rangefinder, get the distance, and then adjust the f stop. It is a great little flash for what it is, small, light, and dare I say it...great for snap shots! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted August 11, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 11, 2009 What is the "x" setting? So if I wanted to go 1/60th, F4.0 @ ISO320, then I simply set the camera to the above settings and the 270EX to F4.0? I think I am still missing something (ie. is there a limit as to what aperture I can use with the flash)? The 'x' setting is the flash-sync speed for electronic flash. On the M8 & M8.2 it is indicated by a red lightning bolt symbol. Note: The M8 and M8.2 have different speeds! The aperture to use depends upon the guide number of the flash you are using. (See the flash's manual for details.) To calculate the required aperture, divide the guide number for the ISO setting that you wish to use by the distance. For example,:- The Canon 270ex has a guide number of 27 (In metres. 89 in feet.) at ISO 100. If your flash-to-subject distance is 3.375m (11.125 feet.) then 27 (89) / 3.375 (11.125) = 8, so you would use an aperture of f8. (In most cases you don't have to be too exact.) If you are using a different ISO speed, then adjust the aperture accordingly. (eg. ISO 200 would be f11, ISO 400 - f16 etc.) It may sound complicated at first, but it's not really. Good luck, and happy flashing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted August 11, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 11, 2009 The 'x' setting is the flash-sync speed for electronic flash. On the M8 & M8.2 it is indicated by a red lightning bolt symbol. Note: The M8 and M8.2 have different speeds! The aperture to use depends upon the guide number of the flash you are using. (See the flash's manual for details.) To calculate the required aperture, divide the guide number for the ISO setting that you wish to use by the distance. For example,:- The Canon 270ex has a guide number of 27 (In metres. 89 in feet.) at ISO 100. If your flash-to-subject distance is 3.375m (11.125 feet.) then 27 (89) / 3.375 (11.125) = 8, so you would use an aperture of f8. (In most cases you don't have to be too exact.) If you are using a different ISO speed, then adjust the aperture accordingly. (eg. ISO 200 would be f11, ISO 400 - f16 etc.) It may sound complicated at first, but it's not really. Good luck, and happy flashing! There may be just one more complication if the reflector of the 270ex can be adjusted for different focal lengths. The quoted guide number is always for the narrowest angle. E.g. if it has settings for 24mm and 50mm, the guide number 27 will be for the 50mm setting; the 24mm setting will cover twice the angle and the guide number must be halved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted August 11, 2009 Share #15 Posted August 11, 2009 There may be just one more complication if the reflector of the 270ex can be adjusted for different focal lengths. The quoted guide number is always for the narrowest angle. E.g. if it has settings for 24mm and 50mm, the guide number 27 will be for the 50mm setting; the 24mm setting will cover twice the angle and the guide number must be halved. I just checked on-line, and the 270ex has a guide number of 22 (72) at the 28mm setting. As always, if in any doubt, consult your manual for guide number information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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