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Anyone went from 24 + 35 kit to 28mm only ?


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Of course, a 28mm Lux with the main characteristics of the 35mm Lux would definitely be hard to resist...

Thanks for all the input !

 

M9 fullframe will solve this :)

 

the new 24/3.8 would be cool lens addition for me but im going with elmarit asph 2.8 28mm for film. 28 cron looks really sweet btw :) I like your picture of elmarit 24mm unprocessed :) I forgot how kodak sensor was like..

 

I think 24 28 is not much difference for you. so you did right with choice. remain 24, 35, 60

 

 

m9 is on way :D

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I should have posted the non-processed image. So here it is as opened by Lightroom 2, so it gives a better idea of the qualities of the lens.

Yes, I add back vignetting in my post processing.

 

Thanks for the info, Yanidel. Is the lens 6-bit coded though? I have an uncoded 24 Elmarit that I've been meaning to have coded for quite a while. Trying to figure out the coded/uncoded difference to the images. :confused:

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I am going on a multi-week med / adriatic cruise (egypt, israel, greek islands, italy, spain ), and will cheat on this question. Since I hate changing lenses on dig camera's ( I am paranoid about sensor dust ), I will be carrying both Tri-Elmars (28-35-50), and (16-18-25) along with a very compact 90/4 elmar 'c' for reach, and a 35 'cron' and 50 'lux asph' for available light.

 

of course, all of them will not be with me in the field at the same time, depending on circumstances.

 

regards ... Harold

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Well yesterday went to a dealer and did about 40 test shots of 28 cron and my 24mm Elmarit to compare.

Conclusion : the 24mm Elmarit, 35mm Lux Asph and 28mm Cron are three very different lenses with their own pros and cons and applications :

 

- 24mm Elmarit : travel, landscape, nature or in your face street photography due to a large FOV, deep DOF and amazing resolution (significantly better than the 28mm IMO at all stops). It's got the most distinctive rendering of the three. Somewhat get the impression to look at a medium format file on landscapes, tonal range being evidently lesser. Main issue is lack of speed and framelines.

- 35mm Lux Asph : "the lyric lens", Renders great atmosphere, special look at 1.4 then modern and also very sharp. Allows thin DOF. Slightly too long is my main issue with it.

- 28mm : also has a great look at F2, a bit less warm and contrasty than the Elmarit, which I like. Less resolution overall than the other two. Best framelines, great size and handling. DOF not thin enough at F2 in the 3-5 meters range.

 

So really, the 28mm Cron can't be a compromise lens in my case. For the moment, I'll keep using the 24mm + 35mm + 60mm Hex trio.

Of course, a 28mm Lux with the main characteristics of the 35mm Lux would definitely be hard to resist...

Thanks for all the input !

 

I'm surprised that you find the resolution of the 28 cron less than that of the 24 elmarit.

 

Jeff

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Thanks for the info, Yanidel. Is the lens 6-bit coded though? I have an uncoded 24 Elmarit that I've been meaning to have coded for quite a while. Trying to figure out the coded/uncoded difference to the images. :confused:
I have it coded and use it with lens detection on. I don't mind the vignetting not corrected, but the cyan drift is an issue when doing color work.
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I'm surprised that you find the resolution of the 28 cron less than that of the 24 elmarit.

 

Jeff

remember this is a perception, based on no scientific testing. The extra contrast of the elmarit and slightly different magnification could explain it. But in the end, both lens will produce wonderful prints and resolution should not be the main criteria of choice between the two (I do A3 only).

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I have weakly succombed to GAS .... somehow I ended up surfing on a dealer website when I saw this mint 28mm Summicron at a reasonable price. Suddenly the auto-pilot engaged and unconsciously two hours later I woke up with a 28mm Cron in one hand and my credit card in the other.

 

Let it be, follow your intuitions they say ...

 

I will dedicate the rest of this summer to the 28mm Cron + 60 Hexanon combo, then afterwards I will be able to tell which of 24, 28, 35 is the best partner to the 60.

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Now isn't that something...after your posting of the 24mm images, I thought perhaps I should get myself a 24mm. I'm in negotiations now for one. My feeling is that the 24 and 28 will have such disparate signatures that a case can be made for having both in the bag. And of course when you need f/2 and moderately wide, there is only one option. Oh, and if you shoot film, you will love the smooth tones from the 28 Cron.

 

Looking forward to some posted results. Here is one from my M7 + 28/2 Cron on Neopan 400...

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Now isn't that something...after your posting of the 24mm images, I thought perhaps I should get myself a 24mm. I'm in negotiations now for one. My feeling is that the 24 and 28 will have such disparate signatures that a case can be made for having both in the bag. And of course when you need f/2 and moderately wide, there is only one option. Oh, and if you shoot film, you will love the smooth tones from the 28 Cron.

 

Looking forward to some posted results. Here is one from my M7 + 28/2 Cron on Neopan 400...

That is a great classical street shot.

Now I understand why this forum is good business for Leica if we all convince each other to buy new lenses ;) Hope you can get that sample.

I would prefer not keep many lenses but the 24mm Elmarit is a lens with a special signature, and I especially like the wide open look. Too bad framelines are so bad and make it more a static shooting lens. When full frame comes around, it could be a nice super wide angle. Will see, for the moment, I will focus on learning my way with the 28mm Cron.

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Time will tell...with a 21/24/28/35, I'm a bit flush, but I do use my M7 regularly and the 21 and 35 are seeing a lot of action on that full frame body. Perhaps I'll go with a 24/35 combination on the M8 and 21/28 on the M7. Of course the universe could change directions completely if a FF M9 were to be introduced.

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Glad the deal came through, you will enjoy the Elmarit. Post some pictures once you get it.

 

I have been shooting with the 28mm Cron for the last few days but it is too early to have an opinion, so far I am a bit lost by the new FOV. Will see over the coming weeks but I definitely like the look at F2 even if much less sharp than the Elmarit.

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I'm surprised that you find the resolution of the 28 cron less than that of the 24 elmarit.

 

Jeff

 

What is it about an image that makes you see the difference in resolution between two pictures? :confused:

 

I don't have the luxury of making these kind of comparisons myself, but I'd be interested in knowing what to look for to see differences in lens resolution.

 

Raymond.

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