Ecaton Posted June 16, 2009 Share #21 Posted June 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) By what measure? IQ, IQ, IQ................ Versatility, versatility, versatility............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Hi Ecaton, Take a look here Olympus take a bite at the m8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted June 16, 2009 Share #22 Posted June 16, 2009 Lots of G1 detractors here, but at least the camera has a viewfinder, even if it's not to everyone's taste. It's disappointing the Olympus does not have even a basic G10 style viewfinder. Not a detractor, Mark, just a don't-liker I wouldn't dispute anybody's right be enthusiastic about the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 16, 2009 Share #23 Posted June 16, 2009 It's disappointing the Olympus does not have even a basic G10 style viewfinder. Which means, unless you zone focus, you have to use the screen on the back to focus. If you're having to use the screen to focus why bother to use an external viewfinder to take the snap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidomo Posted June 16, 2009 Share #24 Posted June 16, 2009 Actually, the 17mm has an optical viewfinder. I must be in the minority as I find the EVF of the G1 fully acceptable until the ambient light gets dark. Ravi But the Oly does not have an EVF. A stick-on EVF would have been the perfect concept IMHO. An EVF is really just a small screen and presumably some optics - why can it not sit in a small box attachable to the hot shoe. The hot shoe would provide the live view signal. This way you could retain the body small formfactor and add a viewfinder that allows for proper framing and focussing when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joppepop Posted June 16, 2009 Share #25 Posted June 16, 2009 Which means, unless you zone focus Or uses the auto focus... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 16, 2009 Share #26 Posted June 16, 2009 Or uses the auto focus... Sorry, I was referring to the use of Leica lenses on the camera as discussed above. I should have made that clear. My mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 16, 2009 Share #27 Posted June 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) But have you read this James? British Journal of Photography - Lens-friendly micro ... seems the 50mm Summicron R lens works well enough on the G1 so why not on the EP-1 ? OK it's an R lens but it is cheap as chips compared to an M and results are quoted to be outstanding. Cheers dunk Dunk, I did read that article. I have the 50R Summicron and its an excellent lens - and looks like being a useful 80 f2 on my 'new' Canon body. I think the G1 looks a much more useful camera that the new Oly - which is a bit half baked IMO. It looks nice enough and I'm sure the Zuiko lenses will be good, but it could have been so much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 16, 2009 Share #28 Posted June 16, 2009 Dunk, I did read that article. I have the 50R Summicron and its an excellent lens - and looks like being a useful 80 f2 on my 'new' Canon body. I think the G1 looks a much more useful camera that the new Oly - which is a bit half baked IMO. It looks nice enough and I'm sure the Zuiko lenses will be good, but it could have been so much better. The G1 looks like the better choice to build a complete system around it. Where the Oly might win because of size advantage, is as a second or backup camera for the M8, Oly E3, E30 shooter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnastovall Posted June 16, 2009 Share #29 Posted June 16, 2009 DOA.... Even more useless than the G1, At least you can hold it to your eye and manually focus a legacy lens. 'No matter how capable it may be, any camera you have to hold out in front of you like a tourist is not cool.' Dean Forbes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 16, 2009 Share #30 Posted June 16, 2009 DOA.... Even more useless than the G1, At least you can hold it to your eye and manually focus a legacy lens. 'No matter how capable it may be, any camera you have to hold out in front of you like a tourist is not cool.' Dean Forbes The markets will decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 16, 2009 Share #31 Posted June 16, 2009 Olympus E-P1 Hands-on Preview: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review Hi Imants, It's an interesting camera but it isn't going to take a bite at the M8. One reason is that the two are very different functionally. You already own the only other true DRF out there. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted June 16, 2009 Share #32 Posted June 16, 2009 ......I think the G1 looks a much more useful camera that the new Oly - which is a bit half baked IMO. It looks nice enough and I'm sure the Zuiko lenses will be good, but it could have been so much better. According to the magazine and internet reports, Olympus see this as their first in a range of Micro 4/3rds cameras and refer to it as being at the consumer end of that range (although it can still mount 4/3rds and Zuiko lenses via adapters), with more enthusiast/pro oriented models to come. In that consumer respect James, the Pen E-P1 might prove more successful than the G1/G1H, which still looks like a (tiny) DSLR given its faux prism hump. I suspect that in future iterations Olympus might find room for a more useable VF solution, probably an EVF, whether external or built-in. That seems to be where Leica are heading, give the recent news concerning a "future R lens solution", although we're told that it will be FF of course (and, no doubt, three times the price of the Oly;)). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wls.shanghai Posted June 16, 2009 Share #33 Posted June 16, 2009 Pen E-P1 this camera will get a Bestseller !! appr. 500 Euro with the Pancake 2.8/17 lens wls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted June 16, 2009 Share #34 Posted June 16, 2009 Pen E-P1 this camera will get a Bestseller !! appr. 500 Euro with the Pancake 2.8/17 lens wls See my earlier post. In the UK at least it's initially £599 (€700+) Body only, £699 (€800+) with 14-42mm zoom and £749 (€880+) with 17mm+VF (all prices inclusive of 15% VAT). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 16, 2009 Share #35 Posted June 16, 2009 Would one of the adaptors which allow the use of Leica glass on the G1 work on this Olympus? Does seem a ridiculous price for a p&s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 16, 2009 Share #36 Posted June 16, 2009 Would one of the adaptors which allow the use of Leica glass on the G1 work on this Olympus? Yes, but there's no viewfinder so you'd need to focus using the rear screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted June 16, 2009 Share #37 Posted June 16, 2009 Would one of the adaptors which allow the use of Leica glass on the G1 work on this Olympus? Does seem a ridiculous price for a p&s. I don't know Andy, but there must be some hope, given that the original 4/3rds mount was supposed to be common across the consortium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 16, 2009 Share #38 Posted June 16, 2009 Would one of the adaptors which allow the use of Leica glass on the G1 work on this Olympus? Does seem a ridiculous price for a p&s. Price is USD 100 higher than for a D-Lux4! Expensive, yes, but a bargain in comparison to the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidomo Posted June 16, 2009 Share #39 Posted June 16, 2009 Would one of the adaptors which allow the use of Leica glass on the G1 work on this Olympus? Why would they not? Does seem a ridiculous price for a p&s. Agree, although it has a larger sensor than regular P+Ss and a bayonet. But how can it be more expansive than the G1, which has an EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 16, 2009 Share #40 Posted June 16, 2009 IQ, IQ, IQ................Versatility, versatility, versatility............... Have you seen files from it yet? Does it have an auto focus lock that you can use to range in when the lens is set to manual focus, I couldnt find that in the specs, nor how to electronically manual focus. Im not sure about how open the body is, it looks a bit leaky, Im not sure I would want to sit it down on a damp table or have it out in the rain. I was surprised how well both the nikon and canon were built, and functionally set out compared with the panaleicas but you reckon this olympus is better? Thats pretty interesting. Fairly early days and Ive not seen one in the flesh but you seem to reckon its pretty good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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