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I notice the Elmar on the III is not at TDC, (top dead centre.)

If you swap the lenses over, what happens?, ....does the II Elmar tighten to TDC on the III?

 

No, that's two versions of the red scale Elmar. The one on the right is the newer one. These newer versions tighten to more or less TDC on every LTM camera, while the older ones tighten as shown. Nice pair btw.

 

Andy

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Thanks for commenting!

 

Alan - Andy is right, the older Elmar (108xxxx) looks the same on any camera body and the later one (132xxxx) too.

 

Best,

 

Yep.. the "diamond" and "triangle" variants of the RS... any serious collector of Elmars MUST have both... ;); a splendid duo, Gunnar.

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Guest Ron (Netherlands)

and both 'screw-less' bodies!, nice pair indeed

 

here's my pair of III-s one with and one without the screws:

 

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A diamond and triangle Red Scale--which is the more desirable or sharper? Or should one try to find a screwmount Elmar 50/2.8?

 

Red Scale are all identical - and excellent - as image quality : I think the "diamond" is a bit less common... but is hard to define any standard variant of the Elmar 50 as "rare". I have the SM 2,8 too, but personally like more the 3,5... but it can depend on my items' conditions.

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Thank you, Luigi. :) I asked because I think I'm coming down with the "leica collector's bug." My Leica II came with the old Elmar 3.5 and after I had it CLA'd by Sherry's Golden Touch it is surprisingly sharp, but obviously uncoated when I shoot color negative film which is all I use. I heard about the later model Red Scale version on this forum and picked up a nice "diamond" model and shot a roll through it but the drugstore scan didn't seem as sharp so I set it aside to save up for a CLA. Then I saw a "triangle" RS with much higher serial number on eBay but I was outbid and it went for a high price so I thought that model might be latest RS and best optical formula. In meantime I picked off an excellent condition Elmar 2.8 #1,624xxx and just shot a roll through it but the pictures/scans from same drugstore seemed kind of dull and flat so it's in same drawer waiting for funds to CLA. Now I may be a bit premature on my judgement of my last two Elmars, that is I need to take the time to scan their negatives in my own scanner to be sure the problem isn't with the new crew in the drugstore or their scanner being out of adjustment. But still, the pictures didn't reach out and "grab" me like my Leica pictures tend to do so as it stands my original Elmar #583xxx is back on my II ready for the next photo trip and my latest acquisitions are going to be CLA'd but I can't see a thing wrong with them--except their pictures...

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Now I may be a bit premature on my judgement of my last two Elmars, that is I need to take the time to scan their negatives in my own scanner to be sure the problem isn't with the new crew in the drugstore or their scanner being out of adjustment.

 

That is kind of wisdom...

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