R lenses on Canon 5D

[atournas]

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Hi,

 

Does anyone know if there are adaptors for using the 28-90-R ASPH on the newest Canon 5D body?

 

Thanks,

Paul

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[adan]

There are definitely adapters for mounting R lenses on Canon EOS bodies, including the 5Dii. The adapters are not specific to a given lens. Some R lenses protrude too far back beyond the adapter to work - they interfere with the moving mirror of the 5D or 1Ds - and that will be true with any adapter. I don't know if the 28-90 is one of those lenses.

 

I.E. if the 28-90 will work on a Canon5D or a 5Dii at all, any adapter will be fine. If it has clearance issues, it won't work via any adapter.

[lct]

I have no experience with that lens at all but according to PebblePlace.com, the shroud at the rear of the lens interferes with the Canon mirror and removing it releases a small spring which could lead to problems. Looks like they did not test the lens on a 5D2 though.

[JeffWright]

Hi,

 

Does anyone know if there are adaptors for using the 28-90-R ASPH on the newest Canon 5D body?

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

The 28-90 does not work on any Canon full frame body without extensive modification to either the body or the lens.

[Realphotos]

1) The Leica R28/90 is a phenomenal lenses. I have a range of Primes and I agree with Erwin Putts comments in an earlier LFI which gives a very positive test report and testament to certain focal lengths of this lenses being the equal or better than certain modern Leica primes.

2) The Pebble site is generously created and run and to a certain degree depending on user feedback & endorsement.

3) True there is a shroud at the back of the 28/90. It does house a spring and it does protrude into the mirror of full frame Canons. But Read on............................

4) I have a serious investment in Leica M & R lenses. My M8 and M7’s do what you all know. My x2 R8s & DMR are wearing out. The batteries are wearing out.

5) My M & R lenses are not wearing out! I await new bodies AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ONE COMENT FROM LEICA THAT THERE WILL BE A BODY IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL RETOFIT THE R LENSES. I totally accept the reasons not to announce a single other detail about the planed camera.

6) I have reasons of Art and Commerce to take stunning pictures. Our Leica lenses have a suite of characteristics that we can depend on. My commercial work pushes me in the arena of Louis Vuiton, Ferrari, Porsche and I need bigger files and functionality than the R8/DMR will deliver. This last December not being able to wait with no word from Leica as to the future I purchased a 5Dmk2. The darkside. Sorry Leica I have a seriously big investment with you and I have to get on. You’re not a casual acquaintance in my life. I have a serious financial commitment involving you and you’re not being responsible. I have trialled lots of Canon Lenses and was surprised that the Canon body could be such a remarkable product of market response and yet the Canon lenses could be such a type different & quality different product.

7) So back to the 28/90. Simple solution. Visit a trusted camera repairer. Have the shroud removed and cut off the protrusion put the spring on and reassemble. Put it on your Canon 5Dmk2 and enjoy! ENJOY!!!!!!!!!! A brilliant body and a brilliant lense. The Chinese convertor will give Manual focus compensation with a beep.

8) Note this does not work on the shroud of the 21/35. While there is no spring under it the lense between 24 and 21 protrudes into the full frame mirror. So there is a problem. No wide Leica lense that fits the Canon.

9) Simple solution take advice from serious photographers that will try any combination to get Leica quality photos. Enter the Nikon 14/24 zoom + Nikon/Canon convertor + 5DMk2

Well glaze over if you like but I am a complete Leica (lense) dedicated photographer and believe me this combination is wonderful. The photos are soooo sharp and painterly, and so Leica like! That’s right Leica like!

 

If some ones interested there are micro details that Canons Bodies and Lenses use software to whisk away vignetting.

The Nikon zoom has internal F stop setting and you need a solution. Also the Leica lenses are most easily used wide open on the Canon. Well that’s the reason I use Leica. Wide open and excellent!

 

That is probably enough heresy.

[JeffWright]

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8) Note this does not work on the shroud of the 21/35. While there is no spring under it the lense between 24 and 21 protrudes into the full frame mirror. So there is a problem. No wide Leica lense that fits the Canon.

 

 

That is probably enough heresy.

 

The shroud on the 21-35 can be easily removed. It's a plastic shroud held on with 3 screws; take them out and then pull the shroud out. Very easy to do.

[lct]

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The shroud on the 21-35 can be easily removed. It's a plastic shroud held on with 3 screws; take them out and then pull the shroud out. Very easy to do.

According to Carlos here:

If you remove the shroud at the rear of the lens (three tiny screws, very easy to do, no consequences) then it works from 35mm to at least 23 or 22mm. My particular 5D2 does not allow me to use it at 21mm, but almost. So I'm able to use all my Leica R lenses down to about 22mm focal length. I would very much like to go wider but short of performing radical surgery on my R lenses or the Canon body, I do not see any practical way of doing so...

Do you share the same experience?

[JeffWright]

According to Carlos here:

 

Do you share the same experience?

 

I've only used the 21-35 on a 1ds2, can't comment on the 5D or 5D2. Although larger, the Canon 16-35 II performs as well, if not better, as the 21-35 in that focal range, so not sure what the point is to it really. The new 16-35 really seems to hold it's own until about 19 mm or so...

[lct]

The point is compatibility of Leica lenses with Canon 5D but it is usefull to know how they behave on other Canon bodies anyway, thanks for sharing.

[adan]

"No wide Leica lense that fits the Canon. "

 

Actually I'm pretty sure the Leica-R 19 f/2.8 and 21 f/4 lenses from the 1970's will work OK - they were designed in the Leicaflex SL era, and the Leicaflex SL has similar mirror issues to the Canon EOS full-frame cameras (it won't accept the later 19, 24, 35 f/1.4, 21-35, etc. designed in the SL2/Minolta-R era)

[loretdem]

I've only used the 21-35 on a 1ds2, can't comment on the 5D or 5D2. Although larger, the Canon 16-35 II performs as well, if not better, as the 21-35 in that focal range, so not sure what the point is to it really. The new 16-35 really seems to hold it's own until about 19 mm or so...

 

Yes, the 21-35 should work on the 1Ds series without the wide end limitation that is unfortunately present in the 5D series. I've tried the 16-35 and 14 L lenses, both version 2. I gave the 14 a thumbs down. Improved over the version 1 but still a piece of crap. The 16-35 version 2 is a very practical and competent performer within the limitations that mr braindeadmac has noted. Wide open performance is mediocre (a common Canon trait) so if image quality is important to you then f2.8 is a no go. So you end up realistically with a competent and convenient AF 20 to 35 f4 Canon L lens with Canon's inimitable "lifeless" rendering. I call it the Canon Dead Look. Even though the 21-35 Vario-Elmar is not as convenient to use on the Canon FF DSLRs, it can render images in such a way that makes it worth the bit of effort. Admittedly this is just my very humble opinion and practicality is not my utmost priority except in the most mundane commercial circumstances, which I try to avoid as much as possible.

 

By the way I fully concur with mr Neville Porter. I'm not mad at Leica for this situation we R users are currently in (and have been for years now), but I've been avoiding using my R lenses on Canons because my DMR has been excellent, much better than the 1DsMk2 and 5D, except at high ISO. But now that the Leica R is gone, its replacement in flux and the new generation FF Canons are alive and well, it was time to make a decision. At least I know that my R lenses have a future just in case Leica f's up the future R (which I doubt, of course, but they're taking just way too long).

 

-Carlos

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9) Simple solution take advice from serious photographers that will try any combination to get Leica quality photos. Enter the Nikon 14/24 zoom + Nikon/Canon convertor + 5DMk2

 

I read this thread with great interest. I am a Leica M shooter but also own a R8 and R lenses (no DMR). I am seriously considering a Canon 5dII, but two of my R lenses will have interference issues - Lux 35 current version and Elmarit 19 v2. So if the Nikon works I may just sell the 19mm....

 

But how does one set the aperture of the Nikon on the 5DII?

Also has anyone tried removing the shroud of the Lux 35?

 

Thanks,

Alan

[stunsworth]

But how does one set the aperture of the Nikon on the 5DII?

 

You turn the aperture ring on the lens - if there isn't one you can't use the lens.

 

There is no automatic diaphram if you are using non-EOS lenses, so typically you would focus wide open and then stop down the lens before taking the shot. As you stop don the lens the image in the viewfinder darkens.

 

Obviously there's no auto-focus either

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You turn the aperture ring on the lens - if there isn't one you can't use the lens.

 

There is no automatic diaphram if you are using non-EOS lenses, so typically you would focus wide open and then stop down the lens before taking the shot. As you stop don the lens the image in the viewfinder darkens.

 

Obviously there's no auto-focus either

 

Yes, I understand that. As far as I know the Nikon 14-24 has no aperture ring but Neville Porter seems to be saying that this lens can be used on the 5DII?

 

Alan

[stunsworth]

I guess it can provided you shoot wide open.

 

I can't see how a Canon cam control the aperture of an electronic AF Nikon lens. It's not just the physical interface that's different, the electronic interface will be too.

[psquared]

On this particular G-series Nikon lens, there is a way to adjust the aperture from the rear mount area, even though there is no aperture ring. There are adapters available to take advantage of this design: Nikon G - Canon EOS Adapter on Canon cameras.

[johnastovall]

You turn the aperture ring on the lens - if there isn't one you can't use the lens.

 

There is no automatic diaphram if you are using non-EOS lenses, so typically you would focus wide open and then stop down the lens before taking the shot. As you stop don the lens the image in the viewfinder darkens.

 

Obviously there's no auto-focus either

 

Actually, there is way to get both automatic focus and stop down with some non-EOS lenses. You can have the Contax N lenses converted by Conurus for full electronic compatibility.

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On this particular G-series Nikon lens, there is a way to adjust the aperture from the rear mount area, even though there is no aperture ring. There are adapters available to take advantage of this design: Nikon G - Canon EOS Adapter on Canon cameras.

 

Interesting. Thanks

Alan

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Further to my previous post since there has been further interest more micro details are required.

1) While we await the R10 but we have wonderful R lenses we are trialling Canon 5dMk2s + R lenses

2) My previous post was complementary about the extraordinary Nikon 14-24 mm Nikon Zoom attached to the Canon. To date I have used a simple Chinese adaptor which allows focus confirmation.

3) A particular detail of this lens is that it has an internal F stop focus ring not a manual and external ring we are all used to.

4) For the Canon to manage this you have the opportunity of using an adaptor from Nikon G - Canon EOS Adapter The product is obviously VERY VERY successful if the 2 month delay in delivery is an indication of the back log of orders. On the other hand IF YOU SEE THE Eulogistic report by David Clapp davidclapp.co.uk - David Clapp Photography | Landscape, Seascape, Travel, Macro and Architectural Photography you have to believe the wait is worth it.

5) I will attempt to post two photo examples that prompt my interest in all of this. One Leica one other.

A)Pic 1: Fruit bowl one was taken ON THE FIRST 16-18-21 Tri + M8 in the first hours I had it. Based on one of the many Sean Reid gems I shot some fruit because the colours of fruit are common to all of us.

Pic 2: is the bowl of fruit taken with the Canon 5D mk2 + Nikon 14-24 Dead flowers a quick shot late in the day

Both shots quickly reduced for the net. Please - If you’re a Pixel pooper Focus on another thread. If you can sense the fact that both shots catch a details about the fruit. The Leica Tri and the Nikon are catching the details in these shots that go beyond the facts. The colour, the age, the spirit, is represented. Your viewer perception is involved. The photos are not just boring advertorial. IE the same detail to all viewers. Different viewers will see different layers of the onion peeled back. (Not withstanding a printed version versus a dumbed down net view on your screen! Sorry about that.

The point is I am passionate about Leica lenses and I live with this era of change over from Film to Digital.

While Leica have their love affair with the S line I must say I am still committed to my ##K $$$$ of R lenses and I await the new body to work them! My DMR/R8s have 15months +- till they wear out or batteries die and The R10 turns up. The bottom line as mentioned will the Manual focus R line fit the new R10? Since Leica have me in the wilderness I either unload my wonderful lenses or figure out life after R8/9 if there is no R10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mean while Leica leave us in the wilderness (re no assurance that our lenses have a future body to be attached) we must try our lenses on other alternatives and where there are gaps we need to find the solution. Be clear I am saying the Leica + Canon gap is in the bottom end (below 24mm) and this Nikon Canon combo has it covered. I have no allegiance with Canon or Nikon but I tell you if Leica leave us in the cold there is an exciting answer. Leica like!!

Photos referred to posted tomorrow.