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Buying my First Leica - advice on M6 please


GaryBrighton

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Dear All

 

This is my first posting so go easy on me!

 

I have just been offered an M6TTL with a Summicron f2 35mm ASPH lens and .72 viewfinder. It is all in excellent condition and in the original boxes. Black finish.

 

The seller wants £900 UK sterling for the lot and I am very tempted.

 

Having never owned a Leica before I'm a little nervous about what is, for me, a large cash investment.

 

My questions are;

 

1. Is this a fair price for body and lens - looking at used prices it seems to be?

2. Is the M6TTL and 35mm lens a good starting point with the M series?

 

Any advice very welcome.

 

Thanks

 

Gary

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Gary,

 

welcome to this forum. To answer your questions,

 

1.) with 900 pounds nowadays being worth not a great deal more than 900 Euro, yes this is GREAT price in my view, provided the items are in excellent condition and fully functional.

 

2.) Another yes, this is indeed a very good combo to start with. 35mm has always been THE classic focal length for a rangefinder camera, and the Summicron 2/35asph. is undoubtly one of the very best, if not the best lens of its kind.

 

So go for it and have fun!

 

Andy

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My sense is that it's a very fair price for the kit, assuming it's in good condition. My only question is - do you know you really want a rangefinder camera? The technique and style is different from SLRs, and you need to be ready to accept that. If the answer is yes, then go for it!

 

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Gary - I know you have had other advice elsewhere but I would not use a 35mm Summicron on an M6 as I think you will find it too restricting. The classic lens for all 35mm cameras is 50mm and I would sell the 35mm and get a 50mm. 35mm is a wideangle lens.

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Going to have to disagree with Tony, I'm afraid. 50mm might be the classic lens for an SLR, but a 35mm is the perfect lens for an M. And that's the perfect combination to get started.

 

At £900, including an M6, it's a bargain. The lens is worth a hundred more than that on its own, if it's in decent condition. You are a lucky man - bite the seller's arm off.

 

And, welcome to the forum, and post lots of shots when you collect :)

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Gary,

 

in contrary to the above posting from Tony I recommend strongly the use of a 35mm wide angle lens.

Depending on your photographic background it's easy to adapt your visual behavior to this length.

I'ts more easy when you concentrate on the use of just one lens.

A 50mm will "cut out" more but this you can do later with 35mm shots until you are trained.

 

Two years ago I got a M with different lenses but my 35 Cron pre-a. is the best lens to match my style of photography as street and landscape...:

 

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Cheers

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Jump on it. It is a steal and an ideal set.The 50 mm does not stand on its own as a standard lens, the 35 is used far more often for that purpose. It is an ideal focal length on a rangefinder. If you don't take it, provide the adress of the seller in this forum, there will be a scramble to get this combo - me included.

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Gary, the price is excellent - as has been pointed out above the lens itself would sell for more than that at a dealer. Of course that's provided that the glass isn't scratched or it has any mechanical problems - aperture blades don't move smoothly, focus is very stiff - that kind of thing.

 

As for 35mm being a good lens, I used a 35mm ASPG Summicron most of the time on my M6, using it for thousands of frames a year.

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Gary, Absolutely, go for it! Try this combo and see if 1) everything works.2) You can adapt yourself to the "rangefinder style of taking photos". If everything works, you have a great combo at a fantastic price. If you can't adapt to the "rangefinder way", you will always recoup your investment, possibly ,even make money on the resale. Russell

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I can only agree with what others have said: go for it! The M6 is an excellent camera and a delight to use; the 35 ASPH is a stunningly sharp lens. I like the 50, too, but the 35 excels at travel and "environmental" portraits showing people in their settings. In short, it's a very versatile lens. Do try a variety of film, including slide film to get the very best out of your Leica.

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Run, do not walk, and fetch the M6 with lens.

 

35mm vs 50mm is a very old debate and can only be answered by the individual. In any event, an excellent 35mm (such as the one being offered) is far superior to a mediocre 50mm one.

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I can assure you that the price is for both lens and camera.

 

Given the responses so far I'll definitely be buying it! The seller has a load of other lenses and filters and the motor drive for sale too, so perhaps I'll buy the other stuff too.

 

I dare not tell you what he wants for that...

 

Watch this space.

 

Gary

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I agree that the 35mm lens is an easier lens to employ but whatever you photograph with it there will be an element of distortion. If that's acceptable then use it, but focal lengths are only foot steps.

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I agree that the 35mm lens is an easier lens to employ but whatever you photograph with it there will be an element of distortion

 

Can't say it's ever bothered me - or that I've ever noticed it for that matter.

 

35mm ASPH, M6.

 

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I agree that the 35mm lens is an easier lens to employ but whatever you photograph with it there will be an element of distortion. If that's acceptable then use it, but focal lengths are only foot steps.

 

News to me and a LOT of other M users!

 

85% of my pictures are with the 35mm Lux ASPH with my M's. No problems. Never ever use my 50mm lenses anymore.-Dick

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I agree that the 35mm lens is an easier lens to employ but whatever you photograph with it there will be an element of distortion. If that's acceptable then use it, but focal lengths are only foot steps.

 

Maybe you were thinking of the old 35mm Lux? His is the chron ASPH.

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Stunsworth - You can see the distortion in your picture quite clearly. It can be doctored in Photoshop to some degree as per attached

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