jimbo035 Posted March 31, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 31, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Apart from Capture One v4.1.3 that came with my D-Lux4, what else supports the camera without requiring a Plug-in ? (preferably JPEG as well as RAW) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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macgarvin Posted April 1, 2009 Share #2 Posted April 1, 2009 Adobe does - Lightroom, Photoshop etc. Apple Aperture does not support the RAW format Malcolm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
len_gee Posted April 1, 2009 Share #3 Posted April 1, 2009 Does Photoshop Elements 6 (Mac) support the D-Lux-4 RAW conversion? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgarvin Posted April 1, 2009 Share #4 Posted April 1, 2009 Does Photoshop Elements 6 (Mac) support the D-Lux-4 RAW conversion? Thanks. HI Len - I use the full version, but I can't see any reason why it won't, I would expect it to use the same camera raw engine. I'm sure someone else on the forum will be able to confirm, but you can probably also download a trial version from adobe and find out . .. . malcolm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted April 1, 2009 Does Photoshop Elements 6 (Mac) support the D-Lux-4 RAW conversion? Thanks. I "looked" at Elements 6 the other week, and found I would need a plug-in for it to support the D-Lux4. Lightroom @ 299 USD, (approx 209 GBP) Silkypix Developer 3 (30-day trial just expired) @ 97.58 GBP Shame about Aperture, seeing 'as 'ow I've a Mac Mini :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgarvin Posted April 1, 2009 Share #6 Posted April 1, 2009 I "looked" at Elements 6 the other week, and found I would need a plug-in for it to support the D-Lux4. ( Hi Len - I don't understand your point about the 'plug-in'. It's seamlessly integrated package for processing all RAW formats and comes with the package -its free - is that your concern, or something else? - Malcolm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
len_gee Posted April 1, 2009 Share #7 Posted April 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Macgarvin, I think it was Jimbo who said Photoshop Elements 6 will not covert DL4 RAWS. Anyway, I don't have the D-Lux-4 yet, and still debating whether to buy one. But not if RAWS will not convert through PSE6. That's a deal killer for me right now. Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgarvin Posted April 2, 2009 Share #8 Posted April 2, 2009 Hi Macgarvin, I think it was Jimbo who said Photoshop Elements 6 will not covert DL4 RAWS. Anyway, I don't have the D-Lux-4 yet, and still debating whether to buy one. But not if RAWS will not convert through PSE6. That's a deal killer for me right now. Regards. HI Len & jimbo [sorry, didn't realise that you were both on the thread-working flat out on something else at the mo ] I think the situation must have changed since Jimbo last checked it out - the technote on the Adobe website is unambiguous "Version 5.0 and later of the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in are compatable with Adobe Photoshop Elements 6" in answer to an (irrelevant for your purposes) question about elements 6 for Mac - Use Camera Raw 5.x with Photoshop Elements 6 when you also have Photoshop CS3 installed (Mac OS) BTW it is only there as a plug-in so that it is easy to update without requiring downloading the entire software package, and so that it can easily support the various Adobe programmes that use it - functionally it is seemlessly intergrated. It is a real pain that Aperture doesn't support it - I use all of the various packages professionally as they all have strengths and weaknesses - especially as LX-3 / D-Lux is widely recognised as a major success - look at the back-order situation for the LX3. Aperture lets you do soft proofing which is important if you are really trying to get the extra detail that you get from using raw onto your final prints - You have to go to the full version of Photoshop (not Lightroom) I think to do this with Adobe software If you are working to a budget remember that your pictures will only be as good as the weakest link through to the final print. I'd be tempted to get the LX3 and use the money saved either for software or to let you go a step higher with the printer if you do not already have this. Also colour calibration /soft proofing of screen, printer and specific papers used is crucial for things like shadow detail colour balance, though the initial calibration of each is the most important, so if you can borrow eg an eye one device for a one-off calibration that would be the major step - however, that doesn't deal with not having soft proofing in Elements (?check) if your final goal is a print rather than screen image. Right - that should have put you well and truly off buying anything!!! malcolm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted April 2, 2009 Hi Macgarvin, I think it was Jimbo who said Photoshop Elements 6 will not covert DL4 RAWS. Anyway, I don't have the D-Lux-4 yet, and still debating whether to buy one. But not if RAWS will not convert through PSE6. That's a deal killer for me right now. Regards. I might go for PS Elements 6 (despite it having unwanted facilities such as Greeting Cards in addition to things I can do already with iPhoto 06 on my Mac), but double checking to see if it does support the D-Lux 4 to is proving difficult to do. (No list of supported cameras in plain view). As I said earlier, I was convinced it needs a plug-in for the D-Lux 4, but probably advisable to dig around to see if this is so. My most likely decision is to pay for Silkypix Developer 3.0 and use the key to activate the expired trial version already on my Mac. NB SilkyPix requires RAW images to be already on the computer - so I use Capture One to get them there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 2, 2009 Share #10 Posted April 2, 2009 Jim, If you want to open D-Lux 4 *.RWL files with PS Elements 6 I think you'll need to download a copy of Adobe Camera Raw 5.2 according to this page on the Adobe.com site, which also has a link to download 5.2. I couldn't find anything that confirmed that PSE 6 is compatible with ACR 5.3 (the current version) because PSE 7 has been released so Adobe (bless its cotton socks) drops any info about earlier versions quicker than a hooker drops her drawers. Or so I'm told. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 2, 2009 Share #11 Posted April 2, 2009 There's no need to use Capture One to get images onto your Mac, just use Image Capture that comes with the Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted April 2, 2009 There's no need to use Capture One to get images onto your Mac, just use Image Capture that comes with the Mac. Andy, I have latterly been using Image Capture's Automatic Task to get RAW images into Capture One Withe Image Capture's "Download To" just left at "Pictures, Movies & Music Folders" but the images don't go to any of them. Camera JPEGs sent to iPhoto 'O6, btw. (Couldn't figure out where else to put them, as iPhoto'06 doesn't support the D-Lux4 RAW images) If its not too time-consuming, a PM how two "by numbers" would be appreciated. Activation of Silkypix expired trial deferred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 2, 2009 Share #13 Posted April 2, 2009 Well, you could always use the Finder and just drag them where you want them. That's what I have always done. It's much easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted April 2, 2009 Share #14 Posted April 2, 2009 Try the demo of RAW Developer: Apple - Downloads - Imaging & 3D - RAW Developer additional information: http://www.iridientdigital.com/products/rawdeveloper.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpes Posted April 2, 2009 Share #15 Posted April 2, 2009 I support your Silypix decision, it's definitely among the best. I've been using it for years with a few different cameras, and I'm very pleased with the subtelty and richness of the colours I get from it. In any case, if you're on a budget or want to delay the payable activation, you could use the free version avalilable on their site. Its options are somewhat "grayed" of course, but anyway it gives access to all the basic editing tools. As for copying your files onto the computer, you just need some specific programme only if you want to rename, sort, catalogue your files in the process, otherwise just follow Andy's advice, drag&drop your files from the card to your computer, it's really the easiest way to do it. Just my 2 (euro)cent of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted April 3, 2009 Try the demo of RAW Developer: Apple - Downloads - Imaging & 3D - RAW Developer additional information: Iridient Digital - RAW Developer One I missed whilst searching. Thank-you, I will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted April 3, 2009 Share #17 Posted April 3, 2009 You are welcome. It would be helpful to see how RAW Developer treats the chromatic and spherical abberration of the D-Lux 4's RWL files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 3, 2009 Share #18 Posted April 3, 2009 I support your Silypix decision, ... "Silypix"? A Freudian slip perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted April 3, 2009 "As for copying your files onto the computer, you just need some specific programme only if you want to rename, sort, catalogue your files in the process, otherwise just follow Andy's advice, drag&drop your files from the card to your computer, it's really the easiest way to do it." Andy's advice followed, slow to pick the tip up due to initial failure finding the card, i.e. that the No Name icon on the desk top was the place to look ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted April 3, 2009 You are welcome. It would be helpful to see how RAW Developer treats the chromatic and spherical abberration of the D-Lux 4's RWL files. neither are mentioned among the tools, unlike Silkypix Developer 3. RAW Developer v1.8.3 : £90.77 Silkypix Developer 3 : £97.58 (worth the extra £6.81 - as far as I'm concerned) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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