jalLee2001 Posted February 13, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 13, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) A couple of questions; What is the difference between the new generation of M lenses and R lenses. To be specific what is the difference between the R 28 m elmarit vs the M version. Excluding the telephoto's, what are THE lenses in the R ranks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wildlightphoto Posted February 13, 2009 Share #2 Posted February 13, 2009 A couple of questions; What is the difference between the new generation of M lenses and R lenses. To be specific what is the difference between the R 28 m elmarit vs the M version. Excluding the telephoto's, what are THE lenses in the R ranks? I'm not sure I understand your question(s). M and R wide-angle lenses are different designs. Are you asking how their performance compares? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted February 13, 2009 Share #3 Posted February 13, 2009 Lee, you might want to check Erwin Puts' site. He's done extensive reviews of most Leica lenses. But your question is something like (poor analogy here), "What's the difference between a Chrysler and a Ford?" One version of the 135/2.8 was optically identical between the two lines; maybe others as well, though I doubt it. As Doug said, they're different cameras. For the R you need different optical and mechanical designs to accommodate the mirror box and the auto diaphragm. But for both R and M, they've always been designed to the highest standards and latest thinking of the day. That is, a more answerable question might be "How do Leica lenses of the '60s compare with today's?" For example, before someone came up with the idea of the MTF, design choices couldn't include MTF specifications, and all lens design was based on the accumulated wisdom of the lens designer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalLee2001 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted February 13, 2009 I should have been more specific. Many of the reviews that I read on leica lenses revolve around the M series. I was wondering if a review for an M lens be applicable to an R lens (Summilux 35M to corresponding lux R). I was not aware that you had such different design parameters between the two product lines. I was looking for reviews on both the R 28M Elmarit and R 100 APO, I did check Puts site. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 13, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 13, 2009 The M lens reviews do not apply to the R lenses, especially when you are considering new M lenses. The M line has been refreshed several times, while the R lenses are basically designs from the 1970s or 80s. One of the only exceptions, AFAIK, is the 90mm Summicron (non APO version), which is very similar in both mounts. The 50 Summicron may be the same. I have a small collection of both M and R lenses. I have the latest 28 Elmarit-R (with ROM), which is an outstanding lens and I have a 90 Summicron-R from the late 70s, which was cheap but is fantastic. The 60 Macro-Elmarit-R is one of the best lenses they have ever made for the R camera. The other advantage of R glass (at the moment) is that it is incredibly good value for money. If you want to get into analogue Leica photography, on a budget, then something like an R6.2, or R8, with a 28/50/90 combination would be a good way to go. You won't be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted February 13, 2009 Share #6 Posted February 13, 2009 28mm Elmarit-R downloads (Know-how: Puts column): Leica Camera AG - Downloads 100mm APO-Macro-Elmarit-R downloads(Know-how: Puts column): Leica Camera AG - Downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted February 13, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 13, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Andy, I don't think the 50/2 is the same or even similar between the two lines. I was working for them when Leica introduced the current Summicron R with 5 plane surfaces. It was an incredible breakthrough in optical design, applauded from every side. I don't think they ever made a similar design change to the M equivalent. But then I haven't kept up with either line very well since that time until recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 13, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2009 ...what is the difference between the R 28 m elmarit vs the M version... You mean IQ whise i guess. Depends on the version of those lenses. The vintage 28/2.8-R # 11204 and 28/2.8-M # 11804 look very close for instance. Both very good lenses with reasonable sharpness and smooth bokeh. Contrasty lenses but not too much. If you shoot digital the files are easy to tweak in PP. But there is some vignetting at full aperture with both lenses. I have no experience of the current 28/2.8-R # 11333, only the previous one # 11259. The latter and the current 28/2.8-M # 11606 are different. The M gives a feeling of extreme sharpness; is more contrasty with a somewhat harsher bokeh. The R makes me think of the previous 28/2.8-M # 11809. It is probably the most homogeneous (to me the best) 28/2.8 i've ever used with a reflex camera. Both show a bit less vignetting than the earlier versions. Nothing scientific, just my feeling when using those lenses. FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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