david@blumenfeld.com Posted February 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi...I am about to purchase a d-lux 4 and wondering from users, what is the card of choice to go with that camera...I've heard about problems with the higher capacity cards...any suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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miami91 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted February 12, 2009 Hi...I am about to purchase a d-lux 4 and wondering from users, what is the card of choice to go with that camera...I've heard about problems with the higher capacity cards...any suggestions? Hi David. Congratulations on your impending purchase! It's a very nice camera. We have lots of threads about SD cards, and most everyone has their favorites. Here's a recent discussion you may want to reference: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/66527-sdhc-card-revirews.html You certainly want to make sure you get the fastest card possible, so get an SDHC card for sure. Class 6 cards are (I believe) 150x speed, and these are supported by the D-Lux 4. As far as capacity is concerned, I'm not aware of any specific problems. I use 8GB cards in my D-Lux 4 and Digilux 3. I'll put in another plug for Hoodman SD cards ( Hoodman Corporation ) . They are quite a bit more expensive than mainstream brands (Sandisk, Lexar, Kingston), but are very high quality and are the only SD card, to my knowledge, made in the USA. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA road racer Posted February 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted February 12, 2009 I use 4 GB cards. Try to find the fastest ones I can at the best price. I shoot at 10MP and the finest settings I can get. I do have an 8 GB card for movies but havent taken any yet. With those settings, I can get almost 800 photos on an 4GB card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest user47901 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #4 Posted February 12, 2009 I would highly recommend you getting at least one or two 16 gb cards. Especially if you are planning to shoot raw Also, order a set of extra batteries. I got three and that will for sure last for a normal week of shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted February 13, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 13, 2009 miami91, Thanks for posting the link to the Hoodman cards. Take a look at this page: Hoodman Corporation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiredArm Posted February 13, 2009 Share #6 Posted February 13, 2009 I mentioned previously in the thread announcing I just bought a D-Lux 4 that Best Buy is selling the SanDisk Extreme III 8GB SDHC Class 6 cards for $40 online this week. Not a bad price for a good card IMO. The Hoodman cards look interesting as well though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDE Posted February 13, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 13, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another Hoodman plug here too! I have an 8gb one in my Dlux 4...and love it. RIDE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 13, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2009 Another Hoodman plug here too! I have an 8gb one in my Dlux 4...and love it. RIDE Yes, I recall you were one of the first to get them. I remember seeing you reference them, and after checking out their site, I ended up buying several. Undoubtedly the price of the Hoodmans would make them an indulgence for some, so it's understandable if people have a difficult time rationalizing the cost. But in this era of globalization, I always like to buy locally and/or from small businesses, and for us Yanks, supporting American jobs in a brutal economy is important too. I'd certainly understand if that wasn't a very persuasive argument for people outside the USA though... Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted February 14, 2009 Share #9 Posted February 14, 2009 The reported zero percent field failure rate of the Hoodman cards is certainly interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiredArm Posted February 14, 2009 Share #10 Posted February 14, 2009 I suspect a lot of it has to do with a much lower reporting sample but some could be attributed to the potential for higher QC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkolluri Posted February 14, 2009 Share #11 Posted February 14, 2009 Hi...I am about to purchase a d-lux 4 and wondering from users, what is the card of choice to go with that camera...I've heard about problems with the higher capacity cards...any suggestions? I have a 16 gig class 6 SDHC "Transcend" card from my local CompUSA in FL, got it for $50. I shot raw, no problems at all Glenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david@blumenfeld.com Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted February 15, 2009 ordered hoodman...should get it this week...thanks for the info and I'll let you know how it goes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david@blumenfeld.com Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted February 18, 2009 Wow...Just got the camera yesterday from my brother who picked it up for me in NY -- had a busy day, but got to play a bit with it and I think I love this camera! It's been a while since I had an "Inspirational" camera...The hoodman seems OK -- Was slow, until I activated the multi-burst...now its great...thanks for the advice At first I kept wanting to put the camera up to my eye (no eyepiece, but I think I have an old rangefinder viewer 21mm somewhere)...But then I started working with the lcd...its quite cool composing images that way vs a viewfinder -- Seeing the images in 2 dimensions, like the final image is going to be is an entirely different way of working...I may try it out on an assignment this week... Whats the deal with processing the raw files...does the latest photoshop cs4 process them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkolluri Posted February 19, 2009 Share #14 Posted February 19, 2009 Whats the deal with processing the raw files...does the latest photoshop cs4 process them? I have to use the software that came with the DL4 - Capture One. I think the RAW files by Leica are propietary. Glenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 19, 2009 Share #15 Posted February 19, 2009 I have to use the software that came with the DL4 - Capture One. I think the RAW files by Leica are propietary. Glenn Almost every RAW file by every camera maker is proprietary, and there's almost always a delay whilst the software companies build in support for the RAW files of new models of cameras. At this point in time, the only holdout amongst the major programs is Apple's Aperture. The latest version of Adobe Camera Raw does support the D-Lux 4 .RWL file, and since ACR is the RAW engine for both CS4 and LightRoom, you can use either of those products (or the bundled Capture One). Hopefully Apple will issue a "Digital Camera Raw" update soon which will include the D-Lux 4 and LX3. Their last release was version 2.4 in December, so it seems we're due... Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david@blumenfeld.com Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted February 20, 2009 After downloading and manually adding the 5.2 Camera Raw plugins to both Photoshop CS4 and Browse, I can now open the .rwl files natively! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anabasis Posted February 20, 2009 Share #17 Posted February 20, 2009 For my D-Lux 4 I bought a Lexar 4 GB SDHC from the US retailer OfficeMax.for $10 US. The 8 GB was $20. I was amazed at the good deal. I am partial to 4 GB cards for all of my digitals as I know I can fit a whole card on 1 DVD-ROM. Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanBay Posted February 22, 2009 Share #18 Posted February 22, 2009 I spoke to the guys at Samys about cards and they said that SD is faster than SDHC. And even turned me away from buying a more expensive SDHC at 16GB. They are apparently designed more for video application. So I bought a San Disk 2G with 15M/s transfer rate. Memory cards without the rate stamped on them are dubious. Preying on the consumer who just sees capacity as the greatest denominator. For me it is quick shooting in RAW and fast downloads into Capture One. I may try SDHC at some point, but am satisfied with the SD Ultra 2. Anyone else do this comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiredArm Posted February 22, 2009 Share #19 Posted February 22, 2009 I spoke to the guys at Samys about cards and they said that SD is faster than SDHC. And even turned me away from buying a more expensive SDHC at 16GB. They are apparently designed more for video application. So I bought a San Disk 2G with 15M/s transfer rate. Memory cards without the rate stamped on them are dubious. Preying on the consumer who just sees capacity as the greatest denominator. For me it is quick shooting in RAW and fast downloads into Capture One. I may try SDHC at some point, but am satisfied with the SD Ultra 2. Anyone else do this comparison? Don't believe everything that the sales person tells you. I worked retail in college and believe me most of them don't know, don't care, and simply lack the work ethic to actually care. I know the company I worked for provides product training for workers to do on thier own within the system. As you could imagine not many people actually took the time to do the training and preferred to "wing it." That's probably why I have a habit of asking sales people questions I already know the answer to before I decide to engage in business with them. They will either try to BS me, answer the question correctly, or try to find the answer. If they act in a manner or the last two options I consider giving them my money... If not I leave. FWIW I bought two SDHC Extreme III cards last week and they are both rated at 30M/s transfer rate. I believe they also make a version that reads at 20M/s. I'm pretty sure most SDHC cards are faster than SD variants and have more storage space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4season Posted February 22, 2009 Share #20 Posted February 22, 2009 "WmAl" already posted a link to this article on Tom's Hardware, but I think these charts in particular should be of interest: Charts, benchmarks SDHC Memory Card Charts, Avergage Write Transfer Rates I kind of doubt that Hoodman owns a wafer fabrication plant but I had some idle time, and thought I'd see who actually does produce SLC NAND memory in the US of A, and the only definite one seemed to be Micron Technology, who also sell under the Crucial and Lexar brand names. Then I decided to see whether those prices were outrageous or not, and here's what I came up with for the top-rated cards: Sandisk Ultra III, 8 gigabytes: $79.99, Newegg.com Transcend 150X 8 gigabyes: $74.95, Adorama Silicon Power (didn't find a USA source) The real surprise was the #1-rated Lexar Pro 133x which currently sells at Adorama for $62.95 less $25 rebate. Standard shipping to my area was $5, which I reduced to $2.30 by including a Sigma DP1 battery to my order. This particular item shows free shipping by itself, but apparently reduces shipping costs when combined with other items; heck of a deal: $40.25, shipped. Yes, I pinch pennies--how do you think I can afford Leica? Here's a link: https://www.adorama.com/ILXSD8GBPRX.html?sid=1235341145470982 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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