tobey bilek Posted December 6, 2009 Share #41 Posted December 6, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) From the reviews I have read, the Summaron is FAR superior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DBAUDUI1 Posted December 17, 2014 Share #42 Posted December 17, 2014 Hello, I am using the summaron 28 F5.6 without IR filter and shade on the leica M8 with great success. It makes the Leica M8 pocketable as the lens protudes only by about 1 cm out of the camera. The quality of the images at F5.6 is stunning and as good as with the Summicron 28MM F2, at the same aperture. The colours are wonderfull and contrasty. The image is very sharp and of high contrast in most of the center area at F5.6 and on all the field of the M8 at F8. I never use it at F11 or F16 as the contrast drops a little bit, but the corners are sharper then. Please note that the summaron 28 F 5.6 is a Gaus lens with 6 glasses in 4 groups. The same formula as used in the summaron 35 F2.8 of the same period, whis is aso recognised for its high contast and sharpness wide open! Both lenses are coated the same way and offer very contrasty pictures. This is also the period when the summicron 35 F2 V1 (with 8 lenses) was build with the same quality level. All of this to say that you should not hesitate to use the summaron 28 as often as you want. You have no excuse not to carry your Leica everywhere you go. I typically travel with the Leica M8 and the 28mm summaron on business trip, with the camera unnoticed, in my business suitcase. :) Best regards. Dominique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 17, 2014 Share #43 Posted December 17, 2014 I second Dominique's assessment. I use the lens with my MM and films Ms. The compactness is unparalelled and the build is way up there relative to other Leica glass. Contrasty and sharp enough. The contrast level is a double-edged sword. It is most effective, even stellar, with low-contrast scenes. The contrast can, on the other hand, be a bit overwhelming with high contrast scenes, such as noon in the summer on a bright and sunny day, particularly with the MM, which clips highlights easily. Not to say there isn't a workaround; but not ideal. Sharpness is very adequate. As long as the aparture is f8-f16, lens fall off isn't really an issue for normal street shooting. At f5.6, however, I find the fall-off to be prominent, even for street shooting in which slight vignetting can be pleasing. I try to get to f8 whenever I can. I have posted numerous photos with this lens in the photo forums (also on my flickr page) fwiw. Best, Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 3, 2015 Share #44 Posted December 3, 2015 Waiting for shipment of an 28mm/5.6 Summaron screw mount lens. I had the lens 3-4 years ago but it had something loose in the mount/barrel so, the dealer sent it to DAG, but he was unable to tighten it. So, the dealer gave me a refund. I have been looking for one since for my IIIg and finally found one in excellent condition from Stan (Dan). I'll get it next week and I have a roll of Ilford 400 already loaded and waiting. Now, if I could only find a reasonably priced SOOBK. Rick Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2942090'>More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 3, 2015 Share #45 Posted December 3, 2015 Welcome Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2942091'>More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 3, 2015 Share #46 Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks. That is a beautiful set. I also have my eye on an excellent+ SUOOQ. It looks really perfect. What do you think? Then, I'd just need to find the SOOBK. Rick Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2942101'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 4, 2015 Share #47 Posted December 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The SUOOQ is a little gem... my one has a small scratch in a corner of front glass (outside the frame) but has its fine leather small case... I used it a lot on M8 as 21mm finder; though having also a SLOOZ, the SUOOQ is imho more pleasant to use as happens with many "sport" finders. Good luck for the chase of a SOOBK... is not easy to find, and costly... I renounced to find one (not to speak of its box... which JC proudly displays.. ) : btw, the front lens of the Summaron 28 is SO recessed into the barrel that I wonder if it is sufficient alone as an "embedded" hood... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Pop Posted December 4, 2015 Share #48 Posted December 4, 2015 I've thought a lot about the Summaron (I have the 35 f3.5 in LTM and M, but that's a different animal of course). From a collectible point of view, with the hood, the Summaron 28 is simply gorgeous. But the really slow aperture on it (and the Hektor) threw me off. If the 28 Summaron was f3.5 I'd be hunting for one at any cost! I'm currently using the CV 28 f3.5 Color Skopar on my iiig and I have to say it's a great lens - it gives my 28mm Elmarit f2.8 Asph a run for its money. So if your Summaron aspirations don't work out (for now), or you need a bit more speed, and don't mind not having a truly 'vintage' setup (body and lens), I can't recommend the CV 28 highly enough. Well-built, sharp. I found one in silver so it goes well with the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 4, 2015 Share #49 Posted December 4, 2015 The LTM Summarons, 28mm 5.6 and 35 mm 3.5, are both excellent lenses and, in my experience, they are considerably better than the Hektor and Elmar lenses, which they replaced. Indeed, I would say that they are two of the best LTM lenses out there. One very nice thing about them is the fact that they both give a very compact profile, even sitting on the latest fattened digital Ms. The various hoods beef them up a bit, but the FOOKH for the 35mm is not too bad in terms of size. On the other hand, the SOOBK for the 28mm is substantial and certainly eliminates the compact profile. It is also, like the lens itself, rather expensive because of its rarity. I managed to pick up one for a relatively low price in a US auction some years ago and, even after paying import duty, it was quite reasonable compared to European prices. I have a SUOOQ which is a little bit battered. It is, after all, a delicate little thing. There are other options such as using a TUVOO on a VIOOH, which is anything but delicate. For those not too concerned with the 'period thing', there are other viewfinder choices from Leica and Voigtlander. You generally pay big money to get a lens, hood and viewfinder combination together, but if you are patient and look around you can save some money in putting together the right combination. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 4, 2015 Share #50 Posted December 4, 2015 HOOPY !!!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2942702'>More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 4, 2015 Share #51 Posted December 4, 2015 Hector & HOOPY! Very nice set. What is the difference between HOOPY vs SUOOQ? Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 5, 2015 Share #52 Posted December 5, 2015 I understand, you were not posting back to my last post where I asked you about SUOOQ view finder. You were just posting a picture of Hector 28mm (HOOPY) with a SUOOQ finder. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted December 5, 2015 Share #53 Posted December 5, 2015 I understand, you were not posting back to my last post where I asked you about SUOOQ view finder. You were just posting a picture of Hector 28mm (HOOPY) with a SUOOQ finder. Rick Rick, the SUOOQ finder is the one to use if you want to stay in the contemporary items, after that if it is for pure usability you can use a SLOOZ or the plastic (12012 ?) one that replaced it in 1980. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 10, 2015 Share #54 Posted December 10, 2015 Received my lens from Dan Tamarkin yesterday and it is indeed in excellent+ condition. (As an aside, I have purchased several used cameras and used lenses from Stan and Dan and they have all been better than the condition they graded them). First thing I did was try the lens on my M240. Works fine and produces fantastic images. I shot some family Christmas photos around the tree. Very impressed that a lens from 1956 can be so good. For these types of shots I really don't believe a modern lens would have produced a more pleasing photo. I will definitely use the lens as a compact lens for the M! Summaron 2.8/5.6 with the Summaron 3.5/3.5 on a pair of IIIg cameras. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2946334'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 10, 2015 Share #55 Posted December 10, 2015 I think the hood is totally unnecessary and will rob you of the truly compact nature of the lens for no reason. Don't be a sucker and buy one (assuming you are not a collector). One of the real hidden magical aspect of this lens is the unique flare signature. It is waiting for you to embrace it! Here are some examples... Don't try this with your other lenses, cause it aint gonna work!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/73830-summaron-5628mm/?do=findComment&comment=2946347'>More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 10, 2015 Share #56 Posted December 10, 2015 Great shots. Can't wait to try the Summaron with some Kodak Porta 400 and the IIIg! Who said don't shoot into the sun?! Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 10, 2015 Share #57 Posted December 10, 2015 Who said don't shoot into the sun?! Rick People who dont have a 28mm summaron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 10, 2015 Share #58 Posted December 10, 2015 By the way, I have a 50 Dual Range that just loves to be shot into the sun! Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 10, 2015 Share #59 Posted December 10, 2015 The 28mm Summaron is one of the best of the LTM lenses. There are others, such as the 5cm Summar, which can, if you can get a good copy, produce spectacular results even on the latest digital models. Whether you should use a lens hood or not is a decision for the photographer alone. Sometimes not using a lens hood, whether the lens is vintage or modern, will produce excellent results as A miller demonstrates above. Purchasing a lens hood, whether you are a collector or not, does not make you a 'sucker', whatever that might mean. Just like using a lens hood or not, purchasing a hood or not is a matter entirely for the purchaser/photographer to decide. There are no 'rules' about such matters. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 10, 2015 Share #60 Posted December 10, 2015 The 28mm Summaron is one of the best of the LTM lenses. There are others, such as the 5cm Summar, which can, if you can get a good copy, produce spectacular results even on the latest digital models. Whether you should use a lens hood or not is a decision for the photographer alone. Sometimes not using a lens hood, whether the lens is vintage or modern, will produce excellent results as A miller demonstrates above. Purchasing a lens hood, whether you are a collector or not, does not make you a 'sucker', whatever that might mean. Just like using a lens hood or not, purchasing a hood or not is a matter entirely for the purchaser/photographer to decide. There are no 'rules' about such matters. William Tongue and cheek, of course. But I will say that, with a cost almost equal to the lens, I most certainly would feel like a sucker by buying the lens for use in the field, as the lens doesn't flare very easily and really doesn't add much utility. Horses for courses, but an unnecessary $600 hood for a $700 lens (which was my cost about 4 years ago) is purely nonsensical GAS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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