mark_goode Posted September 22, 2008 Share #101 Posted September 22, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very impressive, indeed, could not only be the Canon-killer but also the Nikon-nerver... Greetings Ralf Canon-killer? Nikon-nerver? I think a fresh look at Canon and Nikon's corporate financials is in order: in the latest reporting period Canon reported revenues of USD $42.5 billion (Canon Inc. (7751.T): Financial Statements - BusinessWeek) and Nikon's was USD $9.1 billion (NIKON CORP (NINOY.PK): Financial Statements - BusinessWeek. Leica doesn't have the financial capital, human capital, or strategic alliances to put even a dent in these two market heavyweights. Canon and Nikon will continue to out-invest and out-innovate the second tier camera manufacturers (including giants like Sony). Those companies that are even lower down the food chain, such as Leica, will continue to hunt for high margin niches in a market landscape that is being reshaped dramatically every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Hi mark_goode, Take a look here Digital Reflex S2 - please post all thoughts here.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
leica007 Posted September 22, 2008 Share #102 Posted September 22, 2008 "S2 will retail at around €20,000 [body only]" Now put an ad for selling your house (before the price hits rock bottom) and buy a tent. Details: British Journal of Photography - Leica enters the digital SLR market with 37.5 megapixel surprise Photos: 1854, the blog of the British Journal of Photography Partnership with Phaseone: British Journal of Photography - Leica signs partnership with Phase One, says R10's coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 22, 2008 Share #103 Posted September 22, 2008 More pictures 1854 - the blog of the British Journal of Photography Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica007 Posted September 22, 2008 Share #104 Posted September 22, 2008 Fear not, just wait. Leica is going to serve everyone: "'We saw an opportunity,' Stefan Daniel continues. 'There was a very small window to get into the [high-end] DSLR market. We are first going to focus on the pro market before dropping the technology to other lower-priced DSLRs. Eventually we will launch models for amateurs and other pros. We've developed a technology platform and we will split it to the other systems. This is the logical step. This is a pro camera, but of course we will have something for everyone else. This is the commercialisation of what photographers are and have been looking for" - [ quoted from BJP online] Amen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted September 22, 2008 Share #105 Posted September 22, 2008 at E20k it coudl do very very well imo speed/size alone woudl tempt people to jump ship tons more pics here: Flickr: Search Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_mitchell Posted September 22, 2008 Share #106 Posted September 22, 2008 Flash sync will be 1/500 with leaf shutter lenses: fotoMagazin | News | Neues Profi-System: Leica S2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_mitchell Posted September 22, 2008 Share #107 Posted September 22, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I started a Leica S flickr group, if anyone's interested: Flickr: Leica S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 22, 2008 Share #108 Posted September 22, 2008 more pics: Leica S2 - zdjêcia nowej lustrzanki ¶rednioformatowej - Optyczne.pl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted September 22, 2008 Share #109 Posted September 22, 2008 I am happier 'than a pig in slop!' I saw the high res' pictures a the British Journal of Photography - beautiful camera! The eyepiece is inviting - I want to look through it to see the new Leica vision! I probably won't be able to swing the BIG cash for it - so I look forward to the R10. Have all Leica users finally been rewarded for all these LONG years of waiting? Patience is indeed a virtue, and I for one am glad to have hung on, recorded images patiently, enjoyed it, yes, even been frustrated at times, but now the future is here! I for one don't care about Canon or Nikon or how much money they make on throw away, new today, obsolete tomorrow cameras. See the positive and enjoy!!! Bring on the R10!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted September 22, 2008 Share #110 Posted September 22, 2008 Did I mention it's weather-sealed? Why on earth would you need that for fashion?? Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. Sand, ocean spray, suntan lotion.... ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted September 22, 2008 Share #111 Posted September 22, 2008 Looks at the size of that eyepiece... It's HUGE. I wonder if we have to thank Doug Herr for that one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndjambrose Posted September 22, 2008 Share #112 Posted September 22, 2008 The dual shutter is not available elsewhere. The fastest leaf shutter lenses are the Rollei PQS lenses - 1/1000. Dual shutter is available on all Hasselblad 200 series. I have a 203FE - it has flash synch up to 1/500 with leaf shutter, and (unsynched) top speed of focal plane shutter is 1/2000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 22, 2008 Share #113 Posted September 22, 2008 Dual shutter is available on all Hasselblad 200 series. I have a 203FE - it has flash synch up to 1/500 with leaf shutter, and (unsynched) top speed of focal plane shutter is 1/2000. WAS available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndjambrose Posted September 22, 2008 Share #114 Posted September 22, 2008 WAS available A fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted September 22, 2008 Share #115 Posted September 22, 2008 Wow. Very, very impressive. Let's hope they price it competitively. Look at the size of that eyepiece... And they sealed the body. Holy cow, I can't believe they did that. Very, very impressive. Hats off to Leica on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 22, 2008 Share #116 Posted September 22, 2008 I guess because they want to keep the lenses smallish, to settle the camera as a top/end DSLR that just happens to be a MF camera. ... And I think too thay wait to see how it sells before announcing superluminou$$$$ lenses... ...better to start rather quietly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 22, 2008 Share #117 Posted September 22, 2008 It's very impressive, but a big advantage with medium format to me is the digital back. You can use it on view cameras and when a new one comes around just change the back. You can also shoot film if wanted. Apart from this the S2 looks very impressive! The integration in this camera is far better. Anyway, most of the money is in the lenses, so between the savings from making an integrated camera and the improved handling, I don't think that this is serious. It works for 35mm. On the other hand, no announcements have been made. Let's see what Leica announces. Maybe there is something about the sensor setup in there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted September 22, 2008 Share #118 Posted September 22, 2008 Did anyone notice that there's a Tilt/Shift lens (focal length not visible) in the camera + lens lineup photo linked above? Preferring the M system, I'm not even considering the S2 (even if I could afford it) but it is all very impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 22, 2008 Share #119 Posted September 22, 2008 here's another one: Danish sourceLeica S2 - 37 megapixel i spegelreflex från Leica Err, that is Swedish. kamerabild.se is the domainname. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengilbert Posted September 22, 2008 Share #120 Posted September 22, 2008 Most of the money is in the lenses? Right. The body is only 20,000 euros. You could pick up two at that price, and still have money to buy two or three 6,000 euro lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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